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Which Russian Aircraft Is The Most Advanced?  
User currently offlineNomik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

Beyond Western planes,little is known about current Russian ones.
Does anyone know which Russian plane is the most advanced and automated?
Many thanks!

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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2389 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

I think the Sukhoi Superjet. Full of western avionics.


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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

Currently Sukhoi Superjet and then Ukrainian An-148. Basically you can go chronologically.


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User currently offlinelegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

I'd say it is the Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA,
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User currently offlinejeffreyklm From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

The Tu-204 is also very modern, bit classic looking but on the avionics side very modern.


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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Quoting jeffreyklm (Reply 4):
The Tu-204 is also very modern, bit classic looking but on the avionics side very modern

That is a newly modernised version though, not sure if yet in service.

Original 204 is 90s technology, somewhere between 757 and 737NG.



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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4195 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

Quoting Fabo (Reply 5):
That is a newly modernised version though, not sure if yet in service.

Original 204 is 90s technology, somewhere between 757 and 737NG.

The 757 is far advanced beyond the 737NG in its systems and systems displays.

The only thing more advanced about the 737NG is the primary flight display and navigation display.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13995 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3211 times:

Quoting jeffreyklm (Reply 4):
The Tu-204 is also very modern, bit classic looking but on the avionics side very modern.


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Back 10 years ago I was based in CIA, takimng care of a B757. Every morning there was a Tu-204 parked beside my B757, operating for TNT.
I got to know the crews and the engineers and had several opportunities to have a good look at the aircraft.
Technologically the Tu-204 is located between the B757 and the A320.
It has full fly-by-wire as well as a full glass cockpit (AFAIK designed by Honeywell). But it still has the F/E position, even though the captain told me that the F/E was not really required and just introduced due to some Soviet certification requirement, which demanded a F/E for an aircraft of this size. This requirement has now been dropped and the successor, the Tu-214, doesn´t have the F/E position anymore.

Jan


User currently offlineferpe From France, joined Nov 2010, 2803 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
Back 10 years ago I was based in CIA, takimng care of a B757. Every morning there was a Tu-204 parked beside my B757, operating for TNT.

What was their experience in terms of reliability and cost of operation? Overall quality of the workmanship?



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13995 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting ferpe (Reply 8):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
Back 10 years ago I was based in CIA, takimng care of a B757. Every morning there was a Tu-204 parked beside my B757, operating for TNT.

What was their experience in terms of reliability and cost of operation? Overall quality of the workmanship?

The crew told me that the Tu-204 was at the time the most cost efficient aircraft in the TNT fleet. as for the dispatch reliabilty and workmanship, the aircraft looked ok to me. Generally Russian aircraft are built stronger than western aircraft and are easier to maintain, though they might look in places a bit "rustic".
As the crew told me, the weak points of Russian aircraft design were the engines (higher fuel consumption), which for the the Tu-204 was partially solved by using RR RB21 engines, and the avionics, which again was solved by employing a western avionics manufacturer, but for structures and aerodynamics the Russians are very much advanced.

Jan


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