MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13369 posts, RR: 64 Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1820 times:
Hello,
A few friends and myself are trying to set up an aircraft museum with operating historical aircraft in Germany (more details to follow).
They want me to be in charge of maintenance (which for me would be more of a hobby. I´m not earning any money from it).
When I was still working on the T-33 alone, I could handle the necessary documentation using computerprinted forms for a ground maintenance logbook, but now, with several aircraft, it is getting too complicated.
Now I´m looking for some CHEAP software, which can do at least the following:
- Keeping track of flight hours and cycles for each aircraft (to be entered after ech flight) and alerting me about
upcoming checks and maintenance (also to be entered by me according to each aircraft´s maintenance schedule)
- Let me print scheduled work orders and non-routine workorders folr findings and defects and keep track of them in a
database for each aircraft, so that I can instantly see what work still has to be done. The actual signing off and
release to service will have to be done on a paper copy.
- If possible, also keep track of parts used, especially rotables
- Parts stores administration (Stores location, expiry dates, origin tracking)
A nice perk would also be work hours tracking and calibrated tools administration.
Even if it is (at the moment) a hobby, due to liability reasons (I´ll be using my A&P licence), I want to set up the whole operation like a professional MRO.
Does anybody have a suggestion?
tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1806 times:
Quoting MD11Engineer (Thread starter): A few friends and myself are trying to set up an aircraft museum with operating historical aircraft in Germany (more details to follow).
Since you're doing it for historical aircraft, you might consider approaching one of the major MRO vendors for a free copy...they might like the publicity. I haven't run across any actually free MRO software that's any good.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13369 posts, RR: 64 Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1802 times:
Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 1): Quoting MD11Engineer (Thread starter):
A few friends and myself are trying to set up an aircraft museum with operating historical aircraft in Germany (more details to follow).
Since you're doing it for historical aircraft, you might consider approaching one of the major MRO vendors for a free copy...they might like the publicity. I haven't run across any actually free MRO software that's any good.
Tom.
The best I know is AMOS from Swissair Technics, but it is WAY out of my budget limits.
We use WINGS at work, which is quite a bit cheaper than AMOS, but is very unergonomical and counterintuitive to use.
About 12 years ago, in a different company, we used SAP 2 & 3, but this was also quite impractical to use.
In fact I don´t need an airline solution, but something closer to a General Aviation version.
Larshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1221 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1795 times:
What about CAMP. I haven't used it, but the CAMO connected to a PART-145 where I used to work used it to control a few PC-12 and PA-46's, and they seemed to like it. I don't know how much it costs though.
JRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4599 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
I have worked with VisAer, now iFlight MRO, and even if you get it for free I would advise against it. It is (/used to be) built for large companies, and even the company I was working for (7 aircraft fully supported, 9 rotables only) was too small for the software with too much limitations. For example it assumed a parts received, warehouse and parts out for everything, while in smaller companies that is one person. You still had to do all three steps however, and it was the same with the engineering and workorder process....
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tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1702 times:
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 2): The best I know is AMOS from Swissair Technics
Seconded! I *love* AMOS.
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 4): Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 1):
I haven't run across any actually free MRO software that's any good.
Could you give me a few examples, so that I can try them out?
I worded that badly...I've never seen free MRO software, good or bad. I've seen lots of bad pay software, I assume that means there can't be any good free stuff out there. Here's a good listing I found, I have no idea of the pricing/quality: http://www.capterra.com/aviation-maintenance-software
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13369 posts, RR: 64 Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1683 times:
Quoting JRadier (Reply 5): For example it assumed a parts received, warehouse and parts out for everything, while in smaller companies that is one person. You still had to do all three steps however, and it was the same with the engineering and workorder process....
Well, AMOS (which has been written for larger airlines) also assumes that you have a seperate storesman (or even multiple persons), who receives, warehouses and hands out parts to the mechanic, even though in a small line stations the mechanic will be the storesman himself and still has to do all the administrative tasks for each person.
At the moment our fleet consists of a Pützer Elster (a small piston engined two seater initial trainer, which has the historical significance as having been the first aircraft built in Germany after WW2 for the then freshly founded West German military, airworthy when the annual inspection will be carried out in spring), a Morane-Saulnier MS760 Paris (a four seater, twin engined jet built as liason aircraft and IFR trainer for the French military. Has been partially dismanteled for road transport. Will be airworthy again after the wings have been re-attached and an annual inspection carried out), and a Fouga Magister (French jet trainer, airworthy, just out of overhaul and annual inspection, currently waiting for VMC over Germany for a ferry flight from it´s current location in Bavaria to our airfield). Next weekend we´ll be picking up a L-29, which has been sitting outside at Koblenz airfield since the previous owner went broke more than five years ago. This aircraft needs a full overhaul, but is potentially airworthy. Then there is a Lockheed T-33 currently located in Denmark and dismantelled for road transport, which we just need to pick up and bring to Germany. This aircraft is also potentially airworthy.
We also get a Dornier Do-27, which just needs to be moved from the hangar of a flying club located at the same airfield we are on to our hangar.
I thought the engine certificates for the Fouga Magister were withdrawn?
You can´t fly the aircraft commercially anymore (BTW, the Morane-Saulnier Paris uses the same engines) due to no more manufacturer support, but there are still companies around carrying out engine overhauls and you can fly the aircraft as an experimental.
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