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Closing A Runway (Permanently)  
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1079 times:

Recently, my local airport (YQG) converted one of it's 3 runways, 02/20, to a taxiway (twy F). I was wondering what could be the reason for that. What would make an airport to make such a decision? The only reason I could think of was that it might be cheaper to maintain a taxiway than a runway over the years. Is that true? Any other ideas?

LY744.


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User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Hi LY744.

Perhaps the runway was in need of repairs or even re-surfacing and the airport authority felt that the cost was to much, compared to the need.

Has the volumn of traffic at YQG been slowing down for some time? Thus, less need for a 3rd runway...and like you mentioned, a lower runway maintanance cost.

What is the length of runway 02/20, and what is it's surface made of? These could also be factors. I don't know what is cheaper to maintain...a concrete runway or a paved one. Plus, if one of them had to go for budget reasons, etc, I'd think it would be the shortest or less active one.

This is all just a guess on my part.

Chris  Smile



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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

02/20 was the shortest and narrowest of YQG's runways, at 3833'x100'(plus paved shoulders of about 30's on each side). The other two runways are 12/30 (5150'x150'), and 07/25 (recently lengthened to 9000'x200', 25 is the only ILS equipped rwy at YQG). Runway 25 is used most of the time, due to wind direction, it's size, and convenience for arriving a/c. Despite the fact that the wind is usually from the WSW, rwy 30 is used often for departures of commercial a/c, probably due to the fact it requires the shortest taxiing distance from the terminal. When rwy 02/20 was still active, it was used mostly as a taxiway to connect the terminal and GA areas of the airport to rwy 07/25 (it has no parallel taxiway), and on occasion it was used for GA a/c.

Here's a pic of YQG:


You can see the terminal in the southern edge of the airport (the big ramp), adjacent to rwy 12/30, rwy 02-20/twy F crosses rwy 12/30 at an almost right angle, and rwy 07/25 is at the north (that's an older image, from when 07/25 was still 7850' long).

LY744.



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User currently offlineKcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 993 times:

They did that at CLE too. Runway 18/36 was permanently closed, and is a taxiway now. The funny thing is that most of the runway markings, stripes, lines, etc., are still on the runway, and all of the 18/36 intersection signs are still there. I've even heard a pilot ask the tower if 18/36 is open, and tower said, nope, closed permanently.

I can figure out why 18/36 was closed, as it was third longest out of 4 runways, being 6415 x 150 feet, but it didn't have an ILS, as there was no room for the ILS equipment. Does anyone have any info on 18/36, like what aircraft used it, when it was built, etc?


User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 987 times:

Hi LY744.

Wow, that's a really great photo of the airport. I wish I had a view like that right now!

When you look at the photo, it's easy to understand why rwy 02/20 was also used as a taxiway when it was still a runway. This airport dosen't have any taxiways except the 2 that leave the ramps.

The length and width of 02/20 (3833'x100') is just fine for small GA aircraft, unless tall obstacles have recently been built along it's approach paths.

I suspect that a decision was made to change rwy 02/20 to a permanent taxiway once ILS rwy 25 was extended to 9000'. This would save the airport the cost of having to build new taxiways for rwy 07/25.

It's probably all about money. But then, that's just a guess. Hopefully someone will let you know for sure, what the reason for the closure was.

Chris  Smile



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User currently offlineYwg_jy From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 984 times:

I think they did the same in YYZ. I believe that taxiway G used to be a runway that they had to close when they built Terminal 3.

User currently offlineJsuen From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 939 times:

On the other hand, when 11/29 was closed for repaving, OAK converted a taxiway into a runway for about a week.

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