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EV 742-landing In HHN - What Happened?

N14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2315 posts, RR: 25
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Surely you have also seen the picture of the Evergreen B 747-200 landing in HHN currently shown on the photo search engine page:

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I am curious to find out what happened? Is there any pilot out there who can share some more details. I remember WILCO737 recently posting “they rotated her onto the runway” or a similar expression when commenting about a hard landing of another 747 (TUI fly). Is this what happened here as well?

I tried to find out the distance between the aft fuselage and the runway and used the original picture. I hope this acceptable and not breaking any rules (of course, only shown here for dicusssion). If not, please delete. Thanks to Marc Lehman for this amazing photo.

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rikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1464 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

This looks like possibly jammed brakes, and some pretty serious smoke. The dust/smoke comes from directly behind the wheels, and doesn't start further back, as in a tail strike. My observation...

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wilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8484 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

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Quoting N14AZ (Thread starter):
I remember WILCO737 recently posting “they rotated her onto the runway” or a similar expression when commenting about a hard landing of another 747 (TUI fly). Is this what happened here as well?

Yes, that can happen. As I explained in the other thread. If you start the flare too late, then you rotate the gear into the runway. Looks like this happened. Or they triet to make a very smooth landing and flared and flared and flared, nose comes up higher and higher and then suddenly the lift is not enough anymore and you 'drop' the last inches onto the runway. That causes a rather hard touchdown and a lot of smoke.

Quoting rikkus67 (Reply 1):
This looks like possibly jammed brakes

Doubt that. Then it would've made it into avherald or another website as it would cause some tire failures if the brakes are jammed and the anti skid system doesn't work anymore.

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Max Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3293 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 2):

Yes, that can happen. As I explained in the other thread. If you start the flare too late, then you rotate the gear into the runway. Looks like this happened. Or they triet to make a very smooth landing and flared and flared and flared, nose comes up higher and higher and then suddenly the lift is not enough anymore and you 'drop' the last inches onto the runway. That causes a rather hard touchdown and a lot of smoke.

Agree, looks like they got too slow, that is a far higher landing attitude than normal.

Lucky they did not hit the tail.

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