HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Posted (1 year 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2681 times:
Is there a special calculation in naming Flight numbers,very often have noticed certain flights that depart at a certain time from a certain sector have similiar Flight numbers.
bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
Every airline has it's own rules ..might be odd numbers one direction, even the other - low numbers long haul, 3 digits short-haul etc. etc. etc. Within one airline there is generally some 'logic'.
Look at some of the posts suggested at the bottom of this page - this subject, or very similar, comes up often.
Now expect to get 20 posts about how every poster's specific airline does it
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flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6297 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2412 times:
One thing I have noticed is airlines like to have their flagship flights and long haul flights have lower numbers. For example AA 1 is JFK-LAX or AA 56 MIA-LHR I think DL1 is JFK-LHR.
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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2310 times:
Out here coincidentally Aircraft departing a particular station would have the similiar number a few minutes from each other except for the Airline alphabets,the number seem similiar.
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4719 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2263 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3): Out here coincidentally Aircraft departing a particular station would have the similiar number a few minutes from each other except for the Airline alphabets,the number seem similiar.
Often you will find very similar flight numbers either arriving at or departing at a certain time, for what reason other than to make it much more difficult for the flight crew and controllers, is beyond me. I've seen some pushes from IAH where you've had the same airline with a 1676, 1776, 1766, 1556, 1767 etc. one right after the other and most times all headed in the same direction for hundreds of miles. What a cluster that can be on the radio, even if everyone knows the call signs all sound similar.
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Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1823 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (1 year 22 hours ago) and read 2192 times:
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 4):
Often you will find very similar flight numbers either arriving at or departing at a certain time, for what reason other than to make it much more difficult for the flight crew and controllers, is beyond me. I've seen some pushes from IAH where you've had the same airline with a 1676, 1776, 1766, 1556, 1767 etc. one right after the other and most times all headed in the same direction for hundreds of miles. What a cluster that can be on the radio, even if everyone knows the call signs all sound similar.
Some large European airlines have switched to alphanumberic callsigns that are unrelated to the flight numbers, for this reason. Has this happened at all in other parts of the world?
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bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (1 year 18 hours ago) and read 2115 times:
Quoting Rara (Reply 5): Some large European airlines have switched to alphanumberic callsigns that are unrelated to the flight numbers, for this reason. Has this happened at all in other parts of the world?
Many prevoous threads on this subject .. some listed at bottom of this thread!
FlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1893 posts, RR: 28 Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 hours ago) and read 2016 times:
Yes every airlines has its own rules.
For example Qantas flights
QF 1-399 - QF International flights
QF400-999 - QF domestic flights
QF 999-XXXX - QF's codeshare and special flights
For example Cathay Pacific flights
CX 1-99 - CX cargo flights
CX 100-XXXX - CX passengers flights and codeshares
CX's different number sectors tells you their flights to same countries
eg CX100-199 to Australia, CX 200-299 to Europe and CX 800-899 to North America
Why QF uses start flight numbers 1 and 2?
It's because QF first start a new flight number from Australia to England. Then later Qantas 3 and 4 to hawaii then to Pacific.
Why CX uses start flight numbers 100 and 101?
It's also because CX first start a new flight from Hong Kong to Sydney
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 8, posted (12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1824 times:
Can get quite tricky when monitoring company Aircraft arrivals & there are 1-2 similiar numbers communicating at the same time.ATC would be under pressure here......
FlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1893 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (12 months 5 hours ago) and read 1480 times:
I only know that CX 102 and 103 which is for flying Brisbane, Cairns and Hong Kong. I know it's confused cos it has two flight numbers at the same time CX 102 and CX 103 between Brisbane and Cairns. CX 102 is for inbound and CX 103 is for outbound.
B727 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 513 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1259 times:
What I found interesting, I flew Delta home Saturday, my last leg ATL to SYR was listed as a ATL-ATL flight with a stop in SYR. Same number 4044 both ways.
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