PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 5106 posts, RR: 14 Posted (1 year 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2904 times:
Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is in the correct forum, but:
Does anybody know what is required to be an employee at an FBO? I've been looking for a job and most of my knowledge is either aviation or music, and since none of the music stores near me are hiring, I'm curious about applying for work at the airport.
Does anybody have any information about what is required?
termbewr From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 57 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2827 times:
My very first aviation job was with a tiny FBO. I answered phones, called in fuel orders and scheduled flight school appointments. It was one of the most fun, wonderful jobs of my life. I found that position posted on a note card in my college student center. If I were you, I would just take a ride over to any FBO in your local area and say "I love aviation and would be interested in any entry level position". Be enthusiastic and well dressed. If you are passionate about aviation, you will find a job. Thanks to that one low paying job at that small, obscure FBO, I am now a Senior Vice President at a large aviation firm and have traveled to many countries around the world. If I can help you in any way, send me a note. Best of luck!
Must you work at a small airport? I ask because I know my company is hiring at KPHX (assuming that's where you are), and I can assume you'd be getting quite up close and personal with the aircraft, and a small bit of the operations involved as well.
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N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8008 posts, RR: 27 Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
If you want to work line, it's generally drivers license, HS diploma, some previous experience, and 18+. There's not much in the way of pre-requisite requirements. That having been said, while turnover tends to be high, jobs are always pretty competitive, so it helps to have some previous aviation experience, though it's not required. If you can show up on time and work hard, I'd say you're golden. If only I could have said that about everyone I worked with!
Make sure you go through the proper channels if you can help it, though. I guess it depends on where you want to work, but I know when I worked in an FBO we had people come in a couple of times dressed up, resume in hand, wanting to talk to somebody. The boss just sent them away and we referred them to our company website. Worse yet for me as a CSR was the people who would call and just want to talk and talk about "how's the hiring out there? What do I need? Can you get me the address for…" dude I've got 20 other things going on right now, go to the website!!!
PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 5106 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2606 times:
Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 3): I ask because I know my company is hiring at KPHX (assuming that's where you are), and I can assume you'd be getting quite up close and personal with the aircraft, and a small bit of the operations involved as well.
Well I live about 5 minutes from KPHX so That might sound good. Could you P.M. more information, please? I appreciate it
Quoting N766UA (Reply 4): If you want to work line, it's generally drivers license, HS diploma, some previous experience, and 18+. There's not much in the way of pre-requisite requirements. That having been said, while turnover tends to be high, jobs are always pretty competitive, so it helps to have some previous aviation experience, though it's not required. If you can show up on time and work hard, I'd say you're golden. If only I could have said that about everyone I worked with!
Well here's a setback- because of...let's say, my family's financial status, and a generous scholarship by my high school and college, I've never had to work a day in my life, so when hired, this will be my first job. But I think- with a little training, of course- I could probably do a good job. The only thing is- I'm attending ASU and I'd have to have something flexible to my schedule at school.
dlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 716 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5): I've never had to work a day in my life, so when hired, this will be my first job.
Typically FBO's like aviation or customer service backgrounds.... I would try and get a ramp or csa job at a third party vendor cause they are always hiring and this will help you gain experience which will help you land a better job down the road.
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PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 5106 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2219 times:
Since I can't find decent work out here during the summer (at my age, being a student, excuses etc)
I've decided to volunteer at Sky Harbor as a greeter- would that be a good transition into working at an FBO?
KGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 627 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2197 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7): Since I can't find decent work out here during the summer (at my age, being a student, excuses etc)
I've decided to volunteer at Sky Harbor as a greeter- would that be a good transition into working at an FBO?
It may not be the best paying work, but have you thought about being a skycap at PHX? The job is entry level and you can make some good connections with airline personnel, if that's what you're looking to get in to long-term.
The three skycap companies in Phoenix are Prospect, I-Ram, and Complete Skycap Services. If you're interested, PM me and I can give you more info on how to apply.
canoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2671 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2058 times:
Quoting termbewr (Reply 2): My very first aviation job was with a tiny FBO. I answered phones, called in fuel orders and scheduled flight school appointments. It was one of the most fun, wonderful jobs of my life. I found that position posted on a note card in my college student center. If I were you, I would just take a ride over to any FBO in your local area and say "I love aviation and would be interested in any entry level position". Be enthusiastic and well dressed. If you are passionate about aviation, you will find a job.
Outside of what you do now, I have a similar background. At the FBO I worked at from HS through college I did everything from book charters to hangering and fueling aircraft. In hindsight it was the best job I've ever had even though it didn't pay very well I met people from all over the world and due to the small size of our FBO I met and befriended a significant number of business leaders in our area.
Quoting N766UA (Reply 4): If you want to work line, it's generally drivers license, HS diploma, some previous experience, and 18+. There's not much in the way of pre-requisite requirements.
That may depend on where you are. In his case I think it's likely they will require a HS diploma, but my first job at the FBO was washing planes at 15 years old. I moved up from there at 16 to fueling aircraft and closing the FBO down at nights. As a side note, I learned how to drive a stick shift on a fuel truck with a 500 gallon 100 LL tank on the back of it and no cab.
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5): Well here's a setback- because of...let's say, my family's financial status, and a generous scholarship by my high school and college, I've never had to work a day in my life, so when hired, this will be my first job. But I think- with a little training, of course- I could probably do a good job. The only thing is- I'm attending ASU and I'd have to have something flexible to my schedule at school.
In this case it may all come down to work ethic. Anyone with a good work ethic can learn to do a job well in my opinion. I was quite fortunate that by the time I was in college I had already worked at the FBO for a few years. They were remarkably flexible with my work schedule so it would fit around my college course schedules. At one point I did a summer job for one of my professors and they changed all the other line guys work schedules so I could work Friday night through Sunday at the FBO and keep the job with my professor.
atct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2044 posts, RR: 40 Reply 11, posted (12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2045 times:
Every FBO I have been to (small airport) just wants a hard worker who will show up on time. The bigger airport FBO's start to get picky about experience n such. Personally I would drop down to Falcon Field and go to the FBO's and look for a job. You'll meet some people at larger FBO's but I have found the smaller one's build better networks for future career growth.
atct
Former ramp rat / fueler / corporate pilot
Real pilots fly planes that take and measure oil in gallons
dlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 716 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1900 times:
For an FBO job... I would try CHD or MSC. For entry level work on a airline/air cargo ramp go to PHX or AZA...But also check with AZA's employment website I was on there last night and they are looking for a operations agent for the terminal and you would be working along side the FBO at AZA as well.
Worked/Planned Loads on: CRJ-2,CRJ-7,CRJ-9,737-4,737-7,737-8,757-2,757-3,767-3,A319,A320,A330,MD83,MD90
Alias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2648 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1876 times:
One more thing nobody has mentioned. Most places are going to require a clean criminal record. I'm not talking about traffic tickets (unless you failed to pay them), but felonies like burglary, assault, etc... It's pretty much a requirement that you not have any recent felonies if you are applying for a position that requires an airprot badge. The traffic tickets could come into play for jobs that involve driving privileges like refueling aircraft.
Not saying you're a criminal or anything, but figured I should add it just in case
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PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 5106 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1765 times:
Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 14): One more thing nobody has mentioned. Most places are going to require a clean criminal record. I'm not talking about traffic tickets (unless you failed to pay them), but felonies like burglary, assault, etc... It's pretty much a requirement that you not have any recent felonies if you are applying for a position that requires an airprot badge. The traffic tickets could come into play for jobs that involve driving privileges like refueling aircraft.
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