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Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

I know it is a bit strange to talk about deicing in the Phoenix area, however, does AZA have deicing equipment? I know that PHX does, but what about AZA?


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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

Yes. G4 has a deicing cart. But it is a pain because it is a old cart and the airport is really strict about the deicing fluid. We would have to clean it up from the ramp after the flight pushed back.

It is not strange to ask about it in PHX, we do get cold here. The only airlines and vendors at PHX that have deicing equipment are WN, US, and Servisair. I think FedEx and UPS have some also.



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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1037 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 1):
It is not strange to ask about it in PHX, we do get cold here. The only airlines and vendors at PHX that have deicing equipment are WN, US, and Servisair. I think FedEx and UPS have some also.

It's still strange to see them actually fire up the equipment. I think the last time I saw our deicing truck out and doing the rounds was New Years Day 2011. We had deicing logs placed in the flight deck in all the aircraft doing first bank departures. Don't think anyone actually requested it though.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 1):
Quoting wn676 (Reply 2):

Do we actually need deicing equipment here? I haven't seen temps here below 38 degrees F since I moved here



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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Well no but overnight it does get colder then 38 degrees somedays, I have worked outside in 25 degrees (pretty cold for PHX). Frost will form on the wings and could delay first flights in the morning while the plane sits on the tarmac and the frost will melt off...


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Doesn't FLG have any deicing equipment up there in Northern Arizona? Are they ever used?


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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2115 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Do we actually need deicing equipment here? I haven't seen temps here below 38 degrees F since I moved here

I was de-iced on an Alaska flight in Tucson last December. OAT was 40 something degrees with beautiful sunshine. There was a lot of frost on the wings, according to the flight deck, so the Delta ground folks sprayed us down. It's not uncommon to get frost here and in PHX in the winter.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
Doesn't FLG have any deicing equipment up there in Northern Arizona? Are they ever used?

Considering it routinely snows in Flagstaff (elevation 7,000 feet) I'd say there's a very good probability of some de-icing equipment up there.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 6):

It doesn't snow that much in FLG.



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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2115 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
It doesn't snow that much in FLG.

What are you talking about? Average annual snowfall at Flagstaff Airport is 100.3 inches. Higher than Anchorage, Denver, Pueblo, Portland ME, Detroit, Salt Lake City and International Falls, MN.

NWS Data through 2002:
User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2115 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Apparently this site doesn't like NWS links for some reason.

Here's the NWS data through 2002. If you want current stats, go to NWS Flagstaff's homepage and look it up there.

lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/snowfall.html


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5650 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month ago) and read 3242 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):

Do we actually need deicing equipment here? I haven't seen temps here below 38 degrees F since I moved here

I've seen it snow at the airport. The Day After the Super Bowl (shudder)... very very small flakes and they melted almost instantly, but it was snow. Lasted about 5 minutes.

The coldest I've seen it is in the upper 20s. I remember one morning none of the Mesa CRJs could take off until the sun came up and melted the frost off the wings (as they don't/didn't have a contract with anyone for deicing).



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 9):
Here's the NWS data through 2002.

You're giving me data from 2002 - 10 years ago. A lot has changed since then in FLG. The ski season on the Snowbowl isn't very long...at all!

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 10):
I've seen it snow at the airport. The Day After the Super Bowl (shudder)... very very small flakes and they melted almost instantly, but it was snow. Lasted about 5 minutes.

I saw that, too! I think this was in 2007. I was in Ahwatukee when it happened. I thought it was pretty cool!



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