AA737-800 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6190 times:
Currently, my flight lessons are in a Cessna 152 at a controlled airport. A friend of mine has offered flight lessons for slightly cheaper in a 172 (2 dollars per Tach hour), but at a significantly less convenient airport that is not controlled. I don't really care about controlled vs. uncontrolled, but would like to know if there is a significant difference between the two aircraft from a pilots standpoint. I really would like your opinion as a pilot as to what is the better plane to train in. Thanks!
Fr8tdog From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6059 times:
Personally I would look an convenince first then price unless its signifigent difference.
The differences that you are going to experience are
the 172 has a larger HP engine and will have better performance, but it is also a little heavier on the controls ( you will notice) however it is a little more stable while in flight than the 152's. I had students after their solo that switched to the 172 and enjoyed the spaciousness (if you will) compared to the 152.
Personally I dont think that there is anything wrong with going with either one for flight training.
Mostly it will be your PERSONAL choice and preference thats going to matter.
However I do not recommend changing airplanes just prior to your solo or check ride. I found that it tended to take longer to reach profficiency right prior to both of those items..... Paul former CFII MEI AGI now airline pilot
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8505 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6015 times:
Since I'm fairly tall and well built (6' and 200 lbs.), I like the 172's extra room and more power much better. I pay $49 an hour for a 172, or I could pay $44 for the 152. Both are with an instructor. I rent the 172, and I consider it money well spent. It doesn't have such an anemic rate of climb on these hot, humid Alabama days. Plus I'm not so crammed in with my instructor and my knees don't almost touch the instrument panel either.
PT-BRA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5956 times:
I have 50 hours on each airplane and i like the 172 better, because of stability in the air and space inside. I also did my private in a 152 in controlled airpace and if i had to give you an opinion I would tell you to finish your training on the 152 and then you can get a check out on the 172 that same day. If you change airplanes in the middle of your training you will feel the difference and you will probably have to spend extra money just getting used to the 172. Besides i would never live a controlled airpace for a non-controlled.
Hope it helped
Greeneyes53787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 844 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5935 times:
I think a 152 is a better aircraft to learn on. For an up and climbing pilot the lighter controls of the 152 are less distracting than the 172. My training was in alternating 152s and 172s because of the club members' needs. However, I spent most time in the 152 (by choice).
My 152 was unable to reach its designed altitude because it did not carry enough fuel. I suppose on colder days she might have done it.
US521 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5918 times:
I am a PPL myslef and the there is a HUGE dif from the C152 other than one is 2 place and the other 4. The 152 is a little under powered. It's Climb rate is a little less of the 172. The 152 is a great trainer aircraft. People say, " Ohh iwouldn't fly in it because it is a 2 place airplane" or "It is too small for me". Well to put it lightly people, the 152 and 172 in width are about that same and it is athe same in height. I dont see where you can get a 172 for cheaper than a 152 because the 172 is more expensive to operate per hour. Well i hope this helps. Is stick with the 152 for training reasons.
PPL, Single Engine Land, Glider
C172sb From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5893 times:
Once you fly the 172 you will not want to fly the 152 anymore. It's faster, climbs better and cruises faster. Once you get your private and fly a 182, you will not want to fly the 172 anymore. This cycle leads to spending more and more money, but at least it is really fun. I started my training in a 152 and changed over to the 172 because it just performed so much better and cost only a little more. The cost difference cancels out on long cross countries because the 152 is so much slower, and the comfort level is much higher in the 172. The experiance you get at the controlled airport will help you out later when you begin flying to different places. Have fun.
Falcon-air From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5896 times:
I learnt to fly in a C152 after which I converted to a C172, as i'm also over 6 feet tall!. The C172 is certainly a better aircraft. The only good advice I can give you is that if you learn in a C152 you can fly any bigger aircraft in this catagory, they are more powerful and more stable to fly. If you can do your instrument training in the C172 you will find this a lot easier to. By the way I live in the UK and I certainly wish that a C172 was only $49 , we pay over $150 per hr plus landing fees. If you are worried about not being in a controlled airport, fly the C172 to some class c or d airfields to practice in a controlled environment.
Im sure that if you tell them you are a student pilot on your raido call, they will be patient with you.
M Tamminiemi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5857 times:
I did my initial training in the C152 and got type rating to the 172 after obtaining my license. Back then (some 12 years ago) I didn't feel that much different. Sure it was heavier and required firmer controls but besides that it was just another Cessna. Curiously, being more experienced I find the difference bigger nowdays! Maybe one was then unaccustomed to analyzing differences btw aircraft and the seat of pants sense was less sensitive. Today the C152 seems like a toy comparing to anything else, the 172 included.
I don't see any problems training with either type - as mentioned before here, convenience rules. There should be no problems flying the Cherokee or like either. You will notice a much bigger difference when converting to more advanced singles like the C182 and the Cardinal (C177) that feature constant speed propeller and optionally retractrable landing gear - you have use stronger hand and think further ahead.