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User currently offlineinfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 469 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8992 times:

Which foreign airlines have U.S. pilot bases?

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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9378 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8848 times:

Cathay Pacific has multiple US bases.


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User currently offlinethegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8493 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 1):
Cathay Pacific has multiple US bases.

I believe Cathay has bases in SFO & LAX. One of my friends is based in SFO. She only works SFO-HKG.


User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8643 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8344 times:

Quoting thegoldenargosy (Reply 2):
She only works SFO-HKG.

Impossible.



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User currently offlineazncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8338 times:

How is it impossible? US based CX crew (flight attendants) only work XXX-HKG. Unless something change that I'm not awear of. Also, doesn't OZ have a LAX based flight Attendants?

User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8643 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8264 times:

Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 4):
How is it impossible?

Because when they are on standby, they can be sent anywhere in the US or Canada to operate a flight, e.g. YVR, YYZ, JFK, ORD, or LAX. They will also operate regional flights out of HKG. I just had a look at the 777 pilots based in North America, they all have at least one regional flight out of HKG (e.g. PER, PVG, MNL. SIN) on their roster. Line checks and training are mainly done out of HKG, the simulators are based in HKG and SIN as well.

Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 4):
US based CX crew (flight attendants) only work XXX-HKG.

That is not true either. They also have standby days, and technically they can get called out to operate any route, this is however less likely for cabin crew as every aircraft is normally dispatched with more than the legal minimum for the flight, they can afford for 1 or 2 to go sick, pull crew from other flights etc. Cabin crew normally have an additional days layover, so effectively you always have spares of them down route.

I know some of the NA based crew also can get sent to SEA for delivery flights.



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8156 times:
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JAL used to have a base in HNL but it was closed during its bankruptcy re-organization.

Korean has a "base" in LAX, but my understanding is, it is an official domicile to/from which foreign (read non-Korean) pilots are flown at company expense, all rosters begin and end in SEL.

I believe LAX and SFO are the only bases for Cathay on the passenger side, with cargo bases at ANC, CHI and NYC too.

I have a vague memory of Air France having a base in MIA for its narrowbody flights to French territories in the Caribbeans.

Also, Aer Lingus has a cabin crew base in WAS for local hires only. It is to be closed as UA is ending their partnership on the IAD-MAD (or is it BCN?) flight.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7005 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7930 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 6):

Even though the AF A320 down in the Caribbean starts and end it's rotation of flights every day in MIA I am 98% sure they are not based in MIA. I also think the pilots for those flights and maybe the FAs are on a month or two rotation from France. IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8090 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7892 times:
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Quoting flymia (Reply 7):
IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.

9/11 killed the IB hub in Miami. Before 9/11 passengers from Madrid going to Central America were put in an in transit lounge before their flight to the final destination. After 9/11 those passengers had to clear customs in Miami which proved to be a disaster for IB. Connections on the short haul flights became delayed all the time, plus the visa requirements for passengers.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2885 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7830 times:

Doesn't NZ or QF have a base at LAX? IIRC, both of these carriers had HNL based crews back in the day, when HNL was a crossroads for Pacific travel. Fond memories of spotting at KHNL when HNL was still a crossroads of the Pacific.


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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1311 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7289 times:

Cathy has numerous US Cargo bases:

Freighter:
ANC
LAX
ORD
JFK
ATL



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User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1449 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6471 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 7):
Even though the AF A320 down in the Caribbean starts and end it's rotation of flights every day in MIA I am 98% sure they are not based in MIA. I also think the pilots for those flights and maybe the FAs are on a month or two rotation from France. IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.

That's interesting - I never thought about how they did their rotations. I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews? If so, that would make a lot of sense to keep them around for a while rather than shuttling back to France all the time.


User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5763 times:

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 11):
I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews?

UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases and AA is dropping the separation. I'm not sure about DL, but I think they're all combined as well.



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9378 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 11):

That's interesting - I never thought about how they did their rotations. I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews? If so, that would make a lot of sense to keep them around for a while rather than shuttling back to France all the time.

Some airlines do shuttle pilots but have local flight attendants. Delta has 2 week trips to Asia to operate its narrowbody routes from Japan. I'm not sure how things have changed now that they have 767s to NRT and theoretically can route the crews via PDX & SFO.



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User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1449 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5461 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 12):
UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases and AA is dropping the separation. I'm not sure about DL, but I think they're all combined as well.

I was referring to them falling in different bid lines such that they will basically never cross over - A320/737, A330/777, etc.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
Some airlines do shuttle pilots but have local flight attendants. Delta has 2 week trips to Asia to operate its narrowbody routes from Japan. I'm not sure how things have changed now that they have 767s to NRT and theoretically can route the crews via PDX & SFO.

That's another way to do it. Especially with the time difference you have to use those longer trips I'd think.


User currently offlinejetMarc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 543 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

My friend is a SFO based US F/A for CX and he said he only flies SFO-HKG only as well. He flies 4 trips a month, just HKG on the B744.


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User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8643 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Quoting jetMarc (Reply 15):
My friend is a SFO based US F/A for CX and he said he only flies SFO-HKG only as well. He flies 4 trips a month, just HKG on the B744.

It is less likely that SFO cabin crew would operate other flights, they are trained on all types, and there are enough spare cabin crew down route. Unlike cockpit crew, who only fly one type, and will be restored to fly regional flights and simulators regularly. They also have to cover for other pilots on the the same type is they should become sick etc.

There is contractual arrangement that would prevent CX from using these crew regionally, and it does occasionally happen when there is significant Wx disruptions (ege Typhoon). Cabin crew generally get 24+ hrs more than legally required rest down route.



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User currently offlinenws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 12):
UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases

former CO flight attendants are still split between domestic/international


User currently offlineAZNCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Quoting jetMarc (Reply 15):

CX US based FAs fly one route round trip up to four trips a month. They do not fly any other route out of HKG.


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