Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8185 times:
Cathay Pacific has multiple US bases.
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thegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7830 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 1): Cathay Pacific has multiple US bases.
I believe Cathay has bases in SFO & LAX. One of my friends is based in SFO. She only works SFO-HKG.
azncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 671 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7675 times:
How is it impossible? US based CX crew (flight attendants) only work XXX-HKG. Unless something change that I'm not awear of. Also, doesn't OZ have a LAX based flight Attendants?
Because when they are on standby, they can be sent anywhere in the US or Canada to operate a flight, e.g. YVR, YYZ, JFK, ORD, or LAX. They will also operate regional flights out of HKG. I just had a look at the 777 pilots based in North America, they all have at least one regional flight out of HKG (e.g. PER, PVG, MNL. SIN) on their roster. Line checks and training are mainly done out of HKG, the simulators are based in HKG and SIN as well.
Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 4): US based CX crew (flight attendants) only work XXX-HKG.
That is not true either. They also have standby days, and technically they can get called out to operate any route, this is however less likely for cabin crew as every aircraft is normally dispatched with more than the legal minimum for the flight, they can afford for 1 or 2 to go sick, pull crew from other flights etc. Cabin crew normally have an additional days layover, so effectively you always have spares of them down route.
I know some of the NA based crew also can get sent to SEA for delivery flights.
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blueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3126 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7493 times:
JAL used to have a base in HNL but it was closed during its bankruptcy re-organization.
Korean has a "base" in LAX, but my understanding is, it is an official domicile to/from which foreign (read non-Korean) pilots are flown at company expense, all rosters begin and end in SEL.
I believe LAX and SFO are the only bases for Cathay on the passenger side, with cargo bases at ANC, CHI and NYC too.
I have a vague memory of Air France having a base in MIA for its narrowbody flights to French territories in the Caribbeans.
Also, Aer Lingus has a cabin crew base in WAS for local hires only. It is to be closed as UA is ending their partnership on the IAD-MAD (or is it BCN?) flight.
Even though the AF A320 down in the Caribbean starts and end it's rotation of flights every day in MIA I am 98% sure they are not based in MIA. I also think the pilots for those flights and maybe the FAs are on a month or two rotation from France. IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.
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jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7348 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7229 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 7): IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.
9/11 killed the IB hub in Miami. Before 9/11 passengers from Madrid going to Central America were put in an in transit lounge before their flight to the final destination. After 9/11 those passengers had to clear customs in Miami which proved to be a disaster for IB. Connections on the short haul flights became delayed all the time, plus the visa requirements for passengers.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2162 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7167 times:
Doesn't NZ or QF have a base at LAX? IIRC, both of these carriers had HNL based crews back in the day, when HNL was a crossroads for Pacific travel. Fond memories of spotting at KHNL when HNL was still a crossroads of the Pacific.
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LHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1369 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5808 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 7): Even though the AF A320 down in the Caribbean starts and end it's rotation of flights every day in MIA I am 98% sure they are not based in MIA. I also think the pilots for those flights and maybe the FAs are on a month or two rotation from France. IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.
That's interesting - I never thought about how they did their rotations. I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews? If so, that would make a lot of sense to keep them around for a while rather than shuttling back to France all the time.
usflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 486 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5100 times:
Quoting LHCVG (Reply 11): I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews?
UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases and AA is dropping the separation. I'm not sure about DL, but I think they're all combined as well.
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Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52 Reply 13, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4905 times:
Quoting LHCVG (Reply 11):
That's interesting - I never thought about how they did their rotations. I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews? If so, that would make a lot of sense to keep them around for a while rather than shuttling back to France all the time.
Some airlines do shuttle pilots but have local flight attendants. Delta has 2 week trips to Asia to operate its narrowbody routes from Japan. I'm not sure how things have changed now that they have 767s to NRT and theoretically can route the crews via PDX & SFO.
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LHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1369 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4798 times:
Quoting usflyguy (Reply 12): UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases and AA is dropping the separation. I'm not sure about DL, but I think they're all combined as well.
I was referring to them falling in different bid lines such that they will basically never cross over - A320/737, A330/777, etc.
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13): Some airlines do shuttle pilots but have local flight attendants. Delta has 2 week trips to Asia to operate its narrowbody routes from Japan. I'm not sure how things have changed now that they have 767s to NRT and theoretically can route the crews via PDX & SFO.
That's another way to do it. Especially with the time difference you have to use those longer trips I'd think.
zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 7727 posts, RR: 73 Reply 16, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3920 times:
Quoting jetMarc (Reply 15): My friend is a SFO based US F/A for CX and he said he only flies SFO-HKG only as well. He flies 4 trips a month, just HKG on the B744.
It is less likely that SFO cabin crew would operate other flights, they are trained on all types, and there are enough spare cabin crew down route. Unlike cockpit crew, who only fly one type, and will be restored to fly regional flights and simulators regularly. They also have to cover for other pilots on the the same type is they should become sick etc.
There is contractual arrangement that would prevent CX from using these crew regionally, and it does occasionally happen when there is significant Wx disruptions (ege Typhoon). Cabin crew generally get 24+ hrs more than legally required rest down route.
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