Max Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3289 posts, RR: 19 Posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
I always preferred the classic grey cockpit but, after the 744/ 757 / 767 introduced the 'brown look' and continued it with the B777 I assumed they would stick with that colour.
I have become used to it on the 75 / 67 and rather like it now.
Just curious as to why they have gone back to grey for the 787 ?!
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KC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4213 times:
It's a welcome change (back). I found the brown to be incredibly unpleasing to the eye. The grey definitely has a more industrial "aviation" feel. Get rid of that brown!! At least it's not Russian teal.
It's a welcome change (back). I found the brown to be incredibly unpleasing to the eye. The grey definitely has a more industrial "aviation" feel. Get rid of that brown!! At least it's not Russian teal.
Nothing is as bad as the 'public toilet' green on several MD and Russian types !
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tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3694 times:
The brown was trendy at the time (early 80's) and was supposed to hide dirt better..which it does...by always looking somewhat dirty. Also, I suspect they were trying to work the branding angle to have the 787 look distinctly different from its kin.
The brown was trendy at the time (early 80's) and was supposed to hide dirt better..which it does...by always looking somewhat dirty. Also, I suspect they were trying to work the branding angle to have the 787 look distinctly different from its kin.
I can see that. i never thought I would like the Brown but I do think it is a nicer environment.
Wonder what colour is next ..
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I've heard that before but I have a hard time believing it. It certainly doesn't work for me - I would find it a bit nauseating to be stuck for hours on a pink flight deck or in a pink cabin. I suspect it would be more distracting than calming.
I certainly wouldn't buy a car with a pink interior, even if I could be sure no-one would see me in it.
CM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2997 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7): Whats Boeing's observation on why the Grey or Brown was used....
Boeing switched to the brown, believing it would show less wear and dirt than grey. It wasn't true. A 25 year old 767 flight deck looks no better than a 25 year old 747-200 flight deck.
Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 8): I think the grey looks much cleaner. I've always preferred that.
I agree. Ironic, given Boeing's original logic for going to brown on the 767/747-400/777.
zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 7725 posts, RR: 73 Reply 11, posted (5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2967 times:
Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 8): I think the grey looks much cleaner. I've always preferred that.
The cockpit looks more like an Airbus, what I noticed as well was how much the overhead panel changed from the 744, to the 777, and then to the 787. The 787 overhead panel with the switches, back-lighting, fonts etc looks more like Airbus FBW than ever before
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2939 times:
Quoting CM (Reply 10): Boeing switched to the brown, believing it would show less wear and dirt than grey. It wasn't true. A 25 year old 767 flight deck looks no better than a 25 year old 747-200 flight deck.
Are you saying....Boeing Decided Grey was better after manufacturing Three types after the B747.Then what stopped them using Grey on the B757/767/777 midway into production rather await the B787 to do so.
CM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2933 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 12): Then what stopped them using Grey on the B757/767/777 midway into production rather await the B787 to do so.
Cost and the wrath of airlines.
There's no way Boeing would undertake the expense of a cosmetic makeover for a perfectly functional flight deck.
Operators would hate the new added parts variability - They would be forced to stock and manage 2 part numbers for every flight deck component instead of 1.
CM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2867 times:
Quoting zeke (Reply 11): The cockpit looks more like an Airbus, what I noticed as well was how much the overhead panel changed from the 744, to the 777, and then to the 787
The 787 overhead panel is nearly identical to the 777 overhead panel, in almost every way.
tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 18, posted (5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2852 times:
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 14): Would a change in color impact the type rating? Just curious . . .
Not type rating, but you'd have to recertify the flight deck. The regulators are incredibly uptight about glint/glare at night (for some good reasons).
tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 20, posted (5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2031 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19): Based on a colour change....what is the reason provided.......
You have to certify that the flight deck does not generate distracting glare, reflections, glints, light-leakage, or anything that might impact the pilots' vision. Since a big part of that is how the flight deck surfaces reflect (or don't) you'd have to rerun those tests with the new flightdeck. The exact colour isn't so much an issue (as long as it's relatively dark) but the surface finish can have a major impact and you'd have to show that you didn't screw that up when you changed colour.
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