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FO Found Not Guilty On BUE-BCN Drugs Run  
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5943 posts, RR: 30
Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
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I read this today:

http://www.clarin.com/politica/Narco...os-hermanos-Julia_0_842915830.html

Essentially, on 2011 a "Bombardier Jet" flew from Morón (Buenos Aires) to BCN with 944.5 kg of cocaine at 83% purity on board. The plane stopped for refueling at Cabo Verde.

Here´s my question. The FO was found not guilty saying he knew nothing about the actual shipment. There was only one passenger on board. Assuming the newspiece is correct, can an FO of say a CL-600 or a Global Express actually be kept on the dark about a ton of extra weight on such a long routing? And if he notices, Can he actually accept and believe that "yeah, don´t worry about that extra ton, It´s just some fuel left over," or some such excuse?


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16908 posts, RR: 67
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Quoting AR385 (Thread starter):
can an FO of say a CL-600 or a Global Express actually be kept on the dark about a ton of extra weight on such a long routing?

You're assuming it was an "extra" ton. It might have been a ton of cocaine that was labeled something else. A crate is a crate from the outside. The article says the drugs were hidden in a sofa among other things. Those items would simply have been weighed with the drugs inside.

Quoting AR385 (Thread starter):
Can he actually accept and believe that "yeah, don´t worry about that extra ton, It´s just some fuel left over," or some such excuse?

No way. A ton is a lot in a plane that size.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7345 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

Quoting AR385 (Thread starter):
Assuming the newspiece is correct, can an FO of say a CL-600 or a Global Express actually be kept on the dark about a ton of extra weight on such a long routing?

It is not unusual for customers on private jets to not tell/ allow the crew to know what they are carrying. And there are private jet operators who specialize in that type traffic. (There are also private jet operators who refuse such type traffic.)

Using a Challenger or Global Express to move a sofa would be unusual, but not unheard of.

Or was the drugs supposedly concealed in the normal aircraft sofa.

Of course the real question is did the captain do the weight and balance and know about what was the extra weight?

If the captain did the weight and balance numbers, the FO could easily have been unaware.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5943 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
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Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 2):
It is not unusual for customers on private jets to not tell/ allow the crew to know what they are carrying. And there are private jet operators who specialize in that type traffic. (There are also private jet operators who refuse such type traffic.)

The Captain and passenger were the owners and operators of the aircraft. They were brothers. The FO was an employee.

The sofa was put instead of two normal seats, as standard on board equipment.

The drugs were in the sofa, and behind a "fake circuit panel"



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7345 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

Okay, you've answered the question yourself.

The only thing the FO might find unusual was that the 'empty weight' of the aircraft was a bit higher than other similar aircraft. Even that would not be a red flag. Every aircraft empty weight varies. Some Challengers are easily a ton heavier than others, depending upon the equipment installed, the level of customization.


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