HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Posted (3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2183 times:
I know in years past many airlines at their larger stations did their own fueling of aircraft. United, American, Southwest, TWA come to mind that had their own in house fueling department. The trend over the past years has seen the in house fueling contracted out to 3rd party vendors ie ASIG, Swissport, Skytanking. I was wondering if any airlines here in the US still do their own fueling of aircraft? I swear I saw a Southwest fuel tanker in DAL and then again in ELP so maybe SW still does their own still?
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Now why would DL or AA own and maintain a fuel farm? I know ASIG runs LAX FUEL and Swissport runs the PHX farm but would an airline own a fuel farm when they are not providing the fuel?
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HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
I know Northwest used to do their own fueling, because the company I worked for had some of their old trucks. A lot of times at the larger airports a consortium is formed and the fuel farm is ran by a 3rd party but owned by the airlines in the consortium.
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CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 6, posted (3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1873 times:
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KLM has their own fuelling company at AMS. They do offer fueling contracts to other airlines, but as far as I know they only sell fuel from supplier Shell. If another airline at AMS wants another fuel supplier, i.e. AirBP or Total or whatever, they will have to contract a third party fuel company (of which AMS has two) that will pump the fuel for the suppliers.
Whats even more interesting is that the actual fuel flow (and I think all stores as well) is all the same and is pooled by the suppliers.
copter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 752 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1858 times:
CO used to do their own fueling at ORD but contracted it out after new regulations required more training and recordkeeping. The fuel farm was owned by the City, hydrant trucks owned by a contractor and operated by CO employees.
FlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1623 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1613 times:
Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 4): Now why would DL or AA own and maintain a fuel farm? I know ASIG runs LAX FUEL and Swissport runs the PHX farm but would an airline own a fuel farm when they are not providing the fuel?
Because you can pay a contractor a flat fee per plane fueled rather than paying per gallon pumped.
DarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 980 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1590 times:
Quoting HermansCVR580 (Thread starter): I swear I saw a Southwest fuel tanker in DAL and then again in ELP so maybe SW still does their own still?
Can't speak for ELP, but I know that Skytanking has been doing WN at DAL for a while now.
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HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1432 times:
From what I have researched it seems that SkyTanking took over the in house fueling from Southwest at a number of stations where Southwest was doing their own fueling. Not sure about MDW but I know Southwest does/did their own fueling there too.
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airportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3065 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1323 times:
HA does all its own fuel in HNL, only.
Every other station is done by a 3rd party as mentioned above.
surfpunk From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 777 times:
Not sure when NW stopped doing their own fueling, but MSP was 3rd-party back in the late-80s, early 90s, when I worked for Butler Aviation (became Signature FS after the merger with Page AvJet). MSP fueling was done through a consortium at the Lindbergh Terminal (now Terminal 1). We provided fueling services for all airlines at Lindbergh, with the exception of the commuter stuff (Mesaba, Great Lakes, etc). This was long before the commuter terminal was built (Concourses A and B).
HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 641 times:
Well I cannot say for certain that Southwest had done their own fueling in the past, but the trucks were painted in their colors.
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