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User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4236 times:


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Looking at that photo, I'm puzzled as to where all of the heavy jets that we all see landing park at. I dont see where one would be able to park, so where do they go?


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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Germany, joined Jan 2013, 1566 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

I'm not sure that we can actually see the terminal on that picture. Anyway, there is not a lot of space to to park there.


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User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 1):
I'm not sure that we can actually see the terminal on that picture

So what I'm looking at is not the actual terminal?



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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Germany, joined Jan 2013, 1566 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

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User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3597 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

There's a lot of space, because the terminal is outside of the frame to the right. So you have the gates at the terminal, and then if a plane does need to sit parked for a while, they can park on the apron closer to the runway (you see some private jets parked there in the photo posted above, but larger jets can also park there).

Click this thumbnail and you can see the opposite view, with the terminal on the left and the extra parking on the right (still to the left of the runway):



You can see an AF A340 at a gate at the terminal, and then at least the tails of a UA 737 and AA 757 parked on the apron.

It is actually a very crowded airport, but there seems to be enough space. There's also extra space east of the terminal near the airport perimeter - commercial jets don't seem to park there (I'm guessing it's technically GA parking) but large private jets do. You see 737's, 727's, etc. parked right up against the fence, you can practically walk up along the road next to the airport and touch them.

btw the big jets don't sit there very long. Both the AF and KLM flights leave about 2-3 hours after they arrive, so they never have to park away from the gate. I'm not sure what the deal is with those AA and UA planes, but most flights just offload, reload fuel and passengers and then leave. So there doesn't need to be a lot of parking for commercial jets.

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User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

IIRC, there isn't much space for private jets and other smaller planes. When it's really crowded, don't they sometimes have to go to another airport to park overnight?

User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 935 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3858 times:
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Quoting c5load (Thread starter):
Looking at that photo, I'm puzzled as to where all of the heavy jets that we all see landing park at. I dont see where one would be able to park, so where do they go?

"All heavy jets"

you mean the 3 heavy jets that land there daily?

That airport looks much busier and larger than it really is


User currently offlineYYCSpotter From Canada, joined Jul 2012, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 4):
I'm not sure what the deal is with those AA and UA planes

There is an AA 752 that stays overnight for an early morning flight to MIA



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User currently offlinergreenftm From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

Quoting g500 (Reply 6):
"All heavy jets"

you mean the 3 heavy jets that land there daily?

I'm not sure the 3 heavies are daily. I was there 2 weeks ago, and flight aware showed nothing bigger than a 757 for the day. IIRC KL and AF were roughly every other day, and I'm not sure who the third heavy belongs to.


User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

The third one is most likely the Corseair or Air Cariibes charter that's a regular there.

User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3597 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3343 times:

Quoting YYCSpotter (Reply 7):
There is an AA 752 that stays overnight for an early morning flight to MIA

That seems like a waste - MIA must be what, 90 minutes away? Why doesn't it make another round trip, at least? There's gotta be demand for it, at least during peak season - all the flights I saw going in and out seemed to be packed. This 757 was parked there starting at around 2PM - that's practically a whole day sitting there not making any money. Seems like they could do either another St. Maarten-Miami round trip and then park at something like 6PM, or they could even do a trip somewhere else on the east coast or in the Carribean and then return and park just a bit later.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5556 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting c5load (Thread starter):

Looking at that photo, I'm puzzled as to where all of the heavy jets that we all see landing park at. I dont see where one would be able to park, so where do they go?

In addition to the terminal being out of frame, the focal length causes an optical illusion of scale. That prop you see next to the runway is probably 2 miles away from where the picture was taken.

There's plenty of room for the few heavies SXM sees.



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User currently offlinewill777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 10):
MIA must be what, 90 minutes away

Nope. MIA-SXM is over 1,200 miles and according to the AA website, it's blocked at 2:55.


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 783 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 10):
This 757 was parked there starting at around 2PM - that's practically a whole day sitting there not making any money. Seems like they could do either another St. Maarten-Miami round trip and then park at something like 6PM, or they could even do a trip somewhere else on the east coast or in the Carribean and then return and park just a bit later.

The 757 that overnights gets in at 9:55pm and leaves 9:55am the next morning.



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User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3597 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 13):
The 757 that overnights gets in at 9:55pm and leaves 9:55am the next morning.

Then what is the 757 sitting parked in the photo I posted? This was at about 2PM.

Quoting will777 (Reply 12):
Nope. MIA-SXM is over 1,200 miles and according to the AA website, it's blocked at 2:55.

Surprised it takes that long given that JFK-SXM is only about 3:20 flight time. I guess SXM is further east than I normally think.



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2079 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

SXM has no heavy traffic, however sometimes in the afternoon it can be a little crowded at the apron.

Most wide body aircraft arrive, turn around and depart within 1-1.5 hours, only very few have a night stop., the remainder of the flights is made up of inter island (domestic) traffic by smaller narrowbodies and a lot of turboprops.



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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2427 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 14):
Then what is the 757 sitting parked in the photo I posted? This was at about 2PM.

Maybe the pax were bussed?



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 14):
Then what is the 757 sitting parked in the photo I posted? This was at about 2PM.

They also have a JFK flight that arrives at around 1, as for why they are parked where they are in the photo, it might be to allow the heavies to use the jetways, or that the use of the jetways is first come, first serve.



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3718 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Quoting g500 (Reply 6):
That airport looks much busier and larger than it really is

Probably due to the sheer amount of pictures that end up on the database.
Every heavy arrival is thoroughly documented on here!


Anyhow, a quick look at Google maps/Google Earth shows about 5 spots available for heavies. Including 4 with jetbridges.

It's not a big ramp by any standard, but there'll be enough room for anything but the busiest of days with several heavy movements coinciding.



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