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Does The B737-700/800/900 Take Containers  
User currently offlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1401 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4855 times:

Does a B 737-700/800/900 Passenger plane take freight containers or pallets like the A 320/321/319 take the LD3-46?

I saw in a thread here that it was a disadvantage of the A 318 talking luggage or freight just as bulk.

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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

Quoting mjoelnir (Thread starter):
Does a B 737-700/800/900 Passenger plane take freight containers or pallets like the A 320/321/319 take the LD3-46?

No they dont...



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8227 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4430 times:

Simple answer, no, they cannot and do not.


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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1817 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

How many airlines really use these containers? I have heard very few?!

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30858 posts, RR: 86
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4065 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 3):
How many airlines really use these containers? I have heard very few?!

They're said to be popular with A320 family operators in Europe.


User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 3):
How many airlines really use these containers? I have heard very few?!

I've seen Air Canada use the containers on the A319s and 320s before.



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User currently offlinedhr From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3815 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 3):
How many airlines really use these containers?

Roughly 40-50%


User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 1149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3797 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 3):

Only Air Canada in North America. I think the problem is that you have Capital in the Can's themselves sitting around and the loading time saved isn't really profitable TO save rather than Bulk loading with the system s already in place.


User currently onlinehoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3006 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3789 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 3):

How many airlines really use these containers? I have heard very few?!


Air Canada uses containers on A320s and A321s, while the A319s are bulk loaded. LD3-45 containers (AKH series) are used.

The A320s and A321s have the ability to be bulk loaded if need be, for example when going to a destination that does not have can loaders.

Some airlines, like Swiss (I believe) also have them on A319s as well.



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User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day ago) and read 3776 times:

Quoting dhr (Reply 6):
Quoting sweair (Reply 3):
How many airlines really use these containers?

Roughly 40-50%

To name a few I do know LH & AF do for sure, but possibly BA as well....


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1858 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 3483 times:
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LX has containerized their entire 32S fleet including the 319. BA, TP, AZ, SK, AF and OS do the same with the exception being that LX has a special "DZH" container, which is basically an AKH cut in half, to fit in the small space that the containerized 319s have in the aft hold. The old BD aircraft currently with BA have yet to be re-fitted with container positions.

LH has bulk 319's but containerized 320/321s.

Anyone working with these planes will tell you it is a massive advantage over bulk aircraft. Not just the speed of loading, but also with cargo tie-down, and locating bags that have to be offloaded!

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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 3472 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 3):
How many airlines really use these containers? I have heard very few?!

All the AB major one's do in Europe.


User currently offlineBoeing77W From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

BA and EI use them on the A320 family. easyJet don't.

User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4923 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 5):
I've seen Air Canada use the containers on the A319s and 320s before.

The the A320 and A321 use containers, the A319 is bulk loaded, at AC.

Quoting hoons90 (Reply 8):
The A320s and A321s have the ability to be bulk loaded if need be, for example when going to a destination that does not have can loaders.

Only if that option is purchased. At AC, the original AC A320s must be container cargo loaded only (other than the bulk hold), as the floor is not stressed for bulk loading. The rest of the fleet, the A319s, ex CP A320s, and A321s can be bulk loaded.

That is why AC Jetz A320s are all ex CP, as with some sports charters, containerized cargo is not practical.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1865 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2974 times:
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Quoting mjoelnir (Thread starter):
Does a B 737-700/800/900 Passenger plane take freight containers or pallets like the A 320/321/319 take the LD3-46

The low ceiling and the slopes in the hold does not allow for the containters as they are currently designed to fit in the plane.



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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4741 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2783 times:
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Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 10):
LH has bulk 319's but containerized 320/321s.
Quoting longhauler (Reply 13):
The the A320 and A321 use containers, the A319 is bulk loaded, at AC.

Is this simply a function of it being easier to bulk load a smaller plane??

OT but does the 757/739 etc have some mechanical system in the hold to assist the rampers getting the bags from the door to the far end of the hold?


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1865 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2686 times:
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Quoting trex8 (Reply 15):
OT but does the 757/739 etc have some mechanical system in the hold to assist the rampers getting the bags from the door to the far end of the hold?

The Boeing narrowbodies can be equipped with either the sliding trays on the 757 or the Telair Sliding carpet on all types to allow for loading/offloading with 1 person in the belly rather than 2. The A320 can be equipped with the sliding trays, the 319 & 318 I dont belive can have the trays as the holds are too short.



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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4741 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
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What's the sliding tray. Also seen references to telescoping trays? Can find references to the carpet systems but how do the others work?

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1865 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2526 times:
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Quoting trex8 (Reply 17):
What's the sliding tray. Also seen references to telescoping trays? Can find references to the carpet systems but how do the others work?

Its a set of trays that slide into each other. You fill one tray and slide it back to reveal another tray that is stacked under it. You will repeat that process until completed.



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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4741 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2410 times:
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Are the trays "powered" or just on rollers?

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting trex8 (Reply 19):


They're powered. The system is considered inop if it goes down. MTC will lock it in the "load" position so the bin can still be used until there is time to fix it (platforms extend all the way). Same thing with the majic carpet.



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