infiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 172 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3069 times:
If anyone can identify these green buttons on the 319 pedestal (right above the throttle quadrant, inside the red box) I only seem to see them on U2 319.. What are the use and purpose of these buttons?
BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2303 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2993 times:
Those are indicator lights, not switches.
That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.
Are those indicator lights something that is a catalog option on Airbus's, or was it a custom or retrofit installation for EasyJet only?
Tomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 453 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2927 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2): Those are indicator lights, not switches.
That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.
Are those indicator lights something that is a catalog option on Airbus's, or was it a custom or retrofit installation for EasyJet only?
Sorry to correct you,
No lights. It's just a plastic slide mechanism indicating if the cabin is secure for landing or not
As far as I have seen cockpits in Europe I've only seen easyjet use it .
DunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 610 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2849 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 4): So the pilots just slide something back and forth to remind themselves which condition they are in? (Ready for movement, or not?).
Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.
Tristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3690 posts, RR: 34 Reply 6, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2781 times:
Quoting Tomskii (Reply 3): As far as I have seen cockpits in Europe I've only seen easyjet use it
BA has a very similar arrangement, but it is out in the fwd galley and moved by the cabin crew.
The pilots can see it on the video screen that is there for cockpit entry control.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19700 posts, RR: 56 Reply 7, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2595 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2): That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.
Not on an Airbus. The FCOM refers to numerous "pushbuttons" on the flight deck.
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musapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2546 times:
Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 5): Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.
British people has too good memory to remember this. I suppose this is a human performance tool, or visual management, however you wanna call it.
flight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3291 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 5): Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.
Seems like a pretty strange feature. Doesn't seem entirely necessary.
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 10, posted (2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
Quoting flight152 (Reply 9): Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 5):
Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.
Seems like a pretty strange feature. Doesn't seem entirely necessary.
There are a LOT of things to keep track of. Anything that increases situational awareness and decreases pilot workload, especially with such a simple feature, should be encouraged.
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MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13336 posts, RR: 64 Reply 12, posted (2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
Many airlines use a similar indicator to show the autoland CAT status of the aircraft. It will be set by maintenance and will indicate if the aircraft has been downgraded in it´s autoland performance, e.g. because of a deferred defect.
longhauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4275 posts, RR: 36 Reply 16, posted (2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1683 times:
Quoting flight152 (Reply 9): Seems like a pretty strange feature. Doesn't seem entirely necessary.
Normally when one sees things like this, or strange SOPs unique to one airline, it is a result of an occurrence within that airline. Likely U2 had an incident where the aircraft took off or landed without the cabin being prepared.
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bueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 536 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1642 times:
Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 14):
While on the terminology bandwagon, my pet peeve is when people are calling it 'finals' instead of 'final'.
There is only one final approach.
Incredibly pointless gripe, as you know exactly what someone means when they say "finals". It's also the official phraseology of the RAF so it's not incorrect. It actually originated as a shorthand for "miles final", e.g instead of saying "6 miles final" or whatever, you can just say "6 finals". That's where it's from anyway, not that anyone says it like that anymore.
So, like much phraseology in Aviation, it came about to a reason from a long time ago that isn't massively relevant now, but there's no harm in it.
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2): The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1230 times:
My guess is he is a Junior F/O or Second Officer (whatever the rank is called at EasyJet). Since EasyJet has no long hauls I assume this means he is in final stages of training.
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Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 18): I didn't really say that it keeps me up at night, or that I would interrupt someone to point it out to him.
No, but you called it a peeve. So you said it peeves you off, or causes you annoyance. Explaining why it shouldn't isn't "ironic", and certainly doesn't constitute "screaming and shouting".
Because he's still on FlexiCrew's cadet contract and is therefore still a cadet pilot. They're starting to get permenant contracts now but it's a bit hit and miss...
twincommander From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 958 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2): Those are indicator lights, not switches.
ever get into an argument about someone who says korry switch?
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