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MEI Considering Getting A&P  
User currently offlinecencalmatt From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 12 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Just as the title states, I'm an MEI and I need to go back to school so I am seriously considering going the mechanic school route. And getting an A.S. and bachelors. I figure it can't hurt to have a more intimate knowledge of aircraft systems and engines and it could be a job to fall back on. I know mechs start out low pay, but so do RJ's.

How many here have done this? And are you glad you did? I would like to stay in aviation if say, something happened with my health or I was injured. Figured this might be a good way.

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User currently offlinedalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2546 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1690 times:

Using it as a fall back for health reasons is not a good idea. I've used my A&P for over 20 years now. It can be a very physical job. There are spots for old guys that can't move around much, but they a few, and tend to be filled with guys that have been AMT's for a long time. For the knowledge side, I can see it, but if you are going back to school you might want to diversify out of aviation. That way when the next time the industry dumps you can go into another field if you need to.

User currently offlinecencalmatt From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Dalmd88 thanks for the response. The only one I got  

That makes a lot of sense and I'm glad because it kind of put me in check. Just because I hold a license doesn't guarantee me anything. Sounds like it would mostly only be good for my personal knowledge. Which is cool so well see. Since I can't get too much here I will have to research elsewhere going forward. Probably going for a business degree as well. Thanks again!


User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1588 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

If you want to stay in aviation and have a back up, have you looked into getting a dispatch license? Otherwise diversify and go outside of aviation. For the most part, no one cares what your degree is in the field, as long as it's a 4 year. I always wanted to get my A&P just to have, I just don't have the time now. If I had to stop flying I would definitely get my dispatch license instead.


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User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Another issue I think you would have is that while it's a great tool to set yourself aside, using both is usually reserved for flight departments that expect you do both for the salary that only one would make.

If you decide to get a degree, and stick with aviation get the degree in something that has nothing to do with aviation. While the A&P is a good fallback if you lose your medical, it's not for any of the other reasons you may lose your job. Which, if you're in reasonable health, are much more likely. If the industry takes a dump like it does every 5-10 years and you lose your job as a pilot you'll be hard pressed to find a job as a tech, dispatcher, or anything else in the field.



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User currently offlinecencalmatt From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Ok that all makes total sense. And yeah, when the industry dumps again the mech market goes with it I didn't really consider that.

Problem is, I don't know what to go to school for. Nothing really jumps out at me other than maybe engineering of some sort. May I ask what you all went to school for? And do you use it today?


User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1588 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

Quoting pilotpip (Reply 4):
Another issue I think you would have is that while it's a great tool to set yourself aside, using both is usually reserved for flight departments that expect you do both for the salary that only one would make.

We have some pilots, mostly FE's, that have an A&P and while it's nice to have someone on the crew with one, the company seems to rely on them a little too much to get stuff done on the plane and I don't think that is right.

Quoting cencalmatt (Reply 5):
Problem is, I don't know what to go to school for. Nothing really jumps out at me other than maybe engineering of some sort. May I ask what you all went to school for? And do you use it today?

Don't get a Flight Engineer rating! Haha.

I have a degree in Aviation Management, no I don't use it. I could see it being useful if I became a Chief Pilot or another management position but I don't really want to do that at this point in my career. I really wish I did something else fun like Geology, Geography or something else I enjoy.



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User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

Quoting cencalmatt (Reply 5):
Problem is, I don't know what to go to school for. Nothing really jumps out at me other than maybe engineering of some sort. May I ask what you all went to school for? And do you use it today?

Civil Engineering or electrical engineering? There are always jobs in those fields. Friends who are in the civil field are always busy between new construction projects and aging infrastructure in the area. If you excel at math (which I do not) it might be a good backup or even a career that gives you the ability to fly for pleasure. Speaking only for myself but it's amazing how fun flying wasn't when it became too much like a job. That's why I got out.



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User currently offlinecencalmatt From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Yeah I worry about flying for a living becoming something I don't enjoy. I definitely want to diversify but it's so difficult deciding which route to go. I know I would enjoy geology but how do you make any money in that? And I'd probably enjoy civil engineering but I too struggle with focus in the really complex mathematics. I could get through it though if that meant a 4 yr degree could get me a job making decent money... I don't know, any other college ideas for a career anybody??

User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1588 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Quoting pilotpip (Reply 7):
Speaking only for myself but it's amazing how fun flying wasn't when it became too much like a job.
Quoting cencalmatt (Reply 8):

Yeah I worry about flying for a living becoming something I don't enjoy.

I think I am fairly unique in that I have always loved flying at work but I don't like it outside of work. I want nothing to do with general aviation type stuff, never did. I got into flying to fly an airliner and that's what I do, I got lucky because I got into jets literally the day after my ME ride at 250 hours. I don't think I could do it if I had to jump through all the hoops like pretty much everyone has to out there.

Quoting cencalmatt (Reply 8):
I know I would enjoy geology but how do you make any money in that?

Maybe with oil exploration but who knows how long the demand will be there for it before the market becomes saturated with geologists kinda like what happened with software engineers. I just think rocks are cool.



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User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

Quoting tb727 (Reply 9):
I think I am fairly unique in that I have always loved flying at work but I don't like it outside of work. I want nothing to do with general aviation type stuff, never did. I got into flying to fly an airliner and that's what I do, I got lucky because I got into jets literally the day after my ME ride at 250 hours. I don't think I could do it if I had to jump through all the hoops like pretty much everyone has to out there.

I'm the exact opposite. I didn't mind the hoops, I minded the low pay and the regional world isn't any better. If I would have had a chance to instruct for more than poverty wages I would have. Commuting, long hours, crappy schedules added up quickly for me and I decided to get out (kinda) and so far I'm really enjoying driving to work. Best part, I'm still in the field and get to talk about planes all day.

After 6 years, I decided it was time for a change.



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