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Boeing 747-400 (pax) Load And Trim Sheet  
User currently offlineigorland From Canada, joined Mar 2013, 17 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5789 times:

Hello, everyone.

My hobby is aviation and programming and I am developing a small application for the X-Plane simulator that should help load a Boeing 747-400 and calculate CG, trim, fuel, and time for a selected simulated flight. This will be for the passenger version of the plane.

I am trying to code a Load and Trim Sheet and, unfortunately, I cannot find any good example on Internet. I could locate one for 767, Airbuses, but not 747-400. I have found a Load and Trim Sheet for a cargo 747 that includes the appropriate indexes for cargo and fuel. However, there is no DOI for the reference and I can only arbitrarily use one (say, DOI of 55-60).

Can someone please help and share a copy of the filled Load and Trim Sheet for 747-400 that I could use in the application to simulate CG and trim?

Your help is much much appreciated!

Best.

Igor

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User currently onlineBravoOne From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5718 times:
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You might find what your looking for if you Google a KAL 747-400F incidnet on takeoff from I believe Oslo. It's a complete incident report with graphics covering the load manifiest. There was a significant CG probem as I recall.

Good luck!


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16908 posts, RR: 67
Reply 2, posted (12 months 16 hours ago) and read 5635 times:

Quoting BravoOne (Reply 1):

You might find what your looking for if you Google a KAL 747-400F incidnet on takeoff from I believe Oslo. It's a complete incident report with graphics covering the load manifiest. There was a significant CG probem as I recall.
http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/617.pdf

There are indeed several. Not the clearest scans unfortunately.



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User currently offlineigorland From Canada, joined Mar 2013, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5460 times:

Thank you so much, BravoOne and Starlionblue!!! I really appreciate it.
The document includes the Index-%MAC chart that is identical to the other document I have (with detailed indexes). It means that both sheets probably have the same way of calculating indexes from weight. And the document that you provided includes DOI (68.8) -- exactly what I was looking for.
Cheers!


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16908 posts, RR: 67
Reply 4, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5456 times:

Quoting igorland (Reply 3):
Thank you so much, BravoOne and Starlionblue!!! I really appreciate it.
The document includes the Index-%MAC chart that is identical to the other document I have (with detailed indexes). It means that both sheets probably have the same way of calculating indexes from weight. And the document that you provided includes DOI (68.8) -- exactly what I was looking for.
Cheers!

BravoOne should have all the credit. I only googled after he mentioned the incident.



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User currently offlineairtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5434 times:
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PM me your email. I can send you a great sheet for a 747-400BDSF


Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineigorland From Canada, joined Mar 2013, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5369 times:

Many thanks, airtran737! Just did. Best.

User currently offlineigorland From Canada, joined Mar 2013, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

Hi. May I ask one more question? Does anyone know usual CG (in ft, inches or %MAC) of a passenger 747-400 at dry operating weight?

Many thanks!


User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 795 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4140 times:

DOI between 510-560.

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