seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 12100 posts, RR: 14 Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 18995 times:
Funny how the "Taxiing from the gate" thread is up. I was just thinking the other day that not many airports have a need for equipment with self-contained air stairs. They were mainly on the DC-9/MD-80s, Caravelle, 727, and 737-200s. Besides the RJs and turboprops, are there any self-contained air stairs on any jets anymore?
BAeRJ100 From Australia, joined Nov 2011, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 18738 times:
Quoting BatonOps (Reply 5): The BAC 1-11 had them. If I remember correctly the main cabin door had to be open before you could deploy the stairs.
Same with the BAe 146/Avro RJ, the slide cover blocks the railing for the stairs, meaning the door needs to be opened fully for the stairs to be pulled out of its stowage. Additionally (and interestingly), the 146 could have airstairs at either the front or rear doors, not just the front.
bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 18365 times:
Quoting BAeRJ100 (Reply 7): Same with the BAe 146/Avro RJ, the slide cover blocks the railing for the stairs, meaning the door needs to be opened fully for the stairs to be pulled out of its stowage. Additionally (and interestingly), the 146 could have airstairs at either the front or rear doors, not just the front.
The self contained airstairs were an option on the 146. An airline I used to work for had the 146's and they did not have self contained airstairs. We used jetways or wheeled stairs to the plane.
Quoting gemuser (Reply 10): F27!!! Are you sure? You could step directly to/from the ground on an F27, although small airstairs were usually used.
cv880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 18068 times:
Quoting gemuser (Reply 14): Well you learn something every day on airliners.net! I certainly never saw them on TAA & the Ansett Group, although both had so many F27 I won't say none of their airframes had them.
LHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 665 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17317 times:
British Airways had L1 airstairs on their BAC1-11s - except the LHR-based -510s - apparently they were removed to save weight and maintenance costs - except they found they needed to add ballast to counteract the weight difference. There was a rumour in BA that there were 20-odd shipsets of 1-11 airstairs lying around somewhere at Heathrow [ TB(A,B,C, etc)].
The BHX-based -400s and -539s retained the L1 airstairs as delivered - not sure about the MAN-based a/c...
DIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 16389 times:
The 727, DC9 and Caravelle had built-in air stairs in the rear. But the ones in the 727 uniquely, had a dual function. They could support the airplane's weight and prevent the aircraft's nose from going up, if something went wrong during loading/unloading on ground.