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Update On Boeing 747-400F Crash Afghanistan  
User currently onlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 600 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8727 times:

This CNN link below is an update on the National Cargo Boeing 747-400F that crashed at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan back in February 2013. In my opinion, I was concerned that this might have been the cause of pilot error, or human error. There speculating that the straps might have broken off holding the tanks and vehicles inside the plane and caused an imbalance and disturbed the center of gravity. This is according to the Afghan Civil Aviation Administration, however Im certain that officials from the NTSB, Boeing, and the FAA are also investigating the cockpit voice recorder and the data video recorder (black box). The investigation is still not 100% complete and is still pending. But this is good progress thus far.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...-lawrence-747-plane-crash.cnn.html

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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1608 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8595 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
This CNN link below is an update on the National Cargo Boeing 747-400F that crashed at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan back in February 2013

It only crashed a month ago. Still quick progress, I don't think it will take long to determine what happened.



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User currently onlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7842 times:

Quoting tb727 (Reply 1):
It only crashed a month ago. Still quick progress, I don't think it will take long to determine what happened.

WOW, because on the video it showed the date 02-15-13 reversed in 13-15-02 or something like that. So it must have been an error on the camera guy who was filming it, I was surprised too about it, because why would they show an event that occurred a while back all of a sudden? So I figured something was wrong with the date being displayed incorrectly and knew that the accident was just recently fresh.


User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1608 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7738 times:

Yeah, must have not put the date on correctly. Lost some good guys that day, I was flying that day and got the news on a fuel stop right after it happened. Seeing some pics on other sites how those things were tied down on the commercial carriers just makes me shake my head, sucks.


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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7593 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Reply 2):

The video had the date as 2013-02-01, which is standard international date format (yyyy-mm-dd). It also looks like the "standard" date for when the operator hasn't reset the DateTime on the camera  


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7512 times:

Straps breaking wouldn't allow the vehicle to move. You'd have to lose all the straps, and even then it'd take some effort because the tires are deflated on the trucks to allow them through the door. I believe the FAA has issued a directive saying no freight on the 747's over 20,000 lbs per piece because they were speculating the straps actually ripped the floor of the aircraft out, which allowed the truck to move.

User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 5):
I believe the FAA has issued a directive

I didn't see an AD issued yet.


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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5470 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7299 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 6):
I didn't see an AD issued yet.

We recieved a SAFO a week or so ago, but it did not have any limitation listed. In fact, it didn't even mention an aircraft type.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6048 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7218 times:

Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 5):
I believe the FAA has issued a directive saying no freight on the 747's over 20,000 lbs per piece

If the picture posted in the first thread last month shows a how a vehicle is typically strapped down, then the total weight of that vehicle would have to be WELL over 20,000 lbs. before the either the straps, tie-down rings, or their support structure fail from overstress. Those straps alone are good for upwards of about 1,500 lbs., and there was a good number of them on the front-end alone.



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User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7184 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 8):
If the picture posted in the first thread last month shows a how a vehicle is typically strapped down, then the total weight of that vehicle would have to be WELL over 20,000 lbs. before the either the straps, tie-down rings, or their support structure fail from overstress. Those straps alone are good for upwards of about 1,500 lbs., and there was a good number of them on the front-end alone.

I've worked probably 15-20 of those exact flights.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 7):
We recieved a SAFO a week or so ago, but it did not have any limitation listed. In fact, it didn't even mention an aircraft type.

It went out to the 747-400BDSF operators.


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