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Runway Phraseology Around The World  
User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3034 times:
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I was watching a show called "Concorde: Anatomy of a Disaster" and they mentioned the runways at CDG and called on of the runways "Two Six Romeo", now I have never heard it stated that way. I've only heard "One Seven Right" etc. I always thought much of the phraseology around the world was fairly standard, but not exactly the same. Was this a case of a show trying to act knowledgable and pilot like? Or is this standard in France or other parts of the world?
Thanks!
Pat


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User currently onlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4462 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3007 times:
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You are right.
Phraseology is "Two Six Right" / Zero Eight Left...
The "Romeo"... could introduce a misunderstanding as these designators are reserved for taxiways and turnoffs.
In French, it's the number as a whole : Two six Right becomes "Vingt-six Droite".



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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2985 times:
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Quoting Pihero (Reply 1):
The "Romeo"... could introduce a misunderstanding as these designators are reserved for taxiways and turnoffs.
In French, it's the number as a whole : Two six Right becomes "Vingt-six Droite".

That's what I was thinking as well. I know it would have thrown me off if I had heard "Two Six Romeo." I appreciate your response! It was confusing me in the show. My roommate is ATC and he said he had never heard it before either.
Pat



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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

Consider it just another "faux pas" that TV shows are known for. Flew into CDG 100s of times and never heard that.

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5831 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

Quoting Pihero (Reply 1):

You are right.
Phraseology is "Two Six Right" / Zero Eight Left...
The "Romeo"... could introduce a misunderstanding as these designators are reserved for taxiways and turnoffs.
In French, it's the number as a whole : Two six Right becomes "Vingt-six Droite".

Here in the states, most often I've heard them leave out the ZERO as well. Thus, 07L becomes "Seven Left".


User currently offlineonetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):

That's the correct way of doing it in the US (FAA).


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):
Quoting Reply 5):

I think the rest of the world pronounces the zero. If u notice, US runways are not painted with the zero before, however the rest of the world do.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5831 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 6):
I think the rest of the world pronounces the zero. If u notice, US runways are not painted with the zero before, however the rest of the world do.

I never noticed the zero was present in other places! Learn something new every day!


User currently offlineAcey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1038 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

Here they say the leading zeros in a callsign as well, and it sounds awkward. AC 1 is "Air Canada zero zero one".


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User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

Speaking of runway phraseology, I heard a controller use "position and hold" last week at FRG...

User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 6):

I think the rest of the world pronounces the zero. If u notice, US runways are not painted with the zero before, however the rest of the world do.

That is only partly true...Civilian airports omit the zero, however military airfields now include the zero on their runways. However, the zero is still omitted in the phraseology.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 9):
Speaking of runway phraseology, I heard a controller use "position and hold" last week at FRG...

There is always one cantankerous holdout at every facility when new rules come down the hole.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 10):
There is always one cantankerous holdout at every facility when new rules come down the hole.



I always wanted to be that guy, but since I love change it never came to pass other than calling the new United "Continental" when it was a CO airplane! 



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User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 10):
There is always one cantankerous holdout at every facility when new rules come down the hole.
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 11):
I always wanted to be that guy, but since I love change it never came to pass other than calling the new United "Continental" when it was a CO airplane!

I replaced our cantankerous old guy a few years ago...I have been trying to fill his very large shoes ever since.



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