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DFW Airspace History -- 1970s And 1980s  
User currently offlinerolypolyman From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4418 times:

Later this summer I'm finally resigning myself to liquidating some stacks of old aeronautical charts and approach plates I've collected over the years. So I figured I'd scan some of the more interesting ones and share them. As someone who grew up around DFW aviation I thought these would stir up some interest.

I remember distinctly around 1980 watching the planes overhead in Fort Worth. One interesting observation is that the neverending procession of westbound 707s and 727 departures were almost always on a roughly-280 deg heading, bearing right for Carswell AFB, and they'd pass almost the exact same point in the sky, plane after plane, day after day. They were already up at about 8000-9000 ft, but there was still a pretty good roar from those JT3Ds and JT8Ds that you never hear these days. My guess is the departures were handed off to ZFW with clockwork precision, right-turned, and perhaps funneled directly to BEGGS (see the 1974 chart) perhaps keeping them neatly out of the Carswell arrival/departure corridors. I don't have old SID plates, so I'm not really sure if this is how it worked. By the 1990s that clearly changed and the STARS fanned traffic out to several exit points, as the 1991 SID here shows. Then of course in 1995 the DFW goalposts, corners, and VORs were all completely changed, and DFW airspace looks nothing like it did back then.

Interesting footnote: as you can see, in 1970 there was an airways VOR east of Plano in Murphy, which had shifted to GSW by the 1974 chart. I wonder if any old timers remember it.

A good thread related to all this is the Love Field Approach And Departure Routes discussion from a year ago.

Low altitude chart from 1974. This was probably the very last chart cycle for GSW before DFW was opened in the same year:


Sectional chart from February 1970, a few years before.


A much newer chart: westbound SID from 1991 before the 1995 airspace changeovers. Strange how 1991 charts seem like new stuff, but if you were born in 1991, you can buy booze. I'm still wrapping my head around that one.

And the eastbound SID from 1991:

And to show Austin and Houston a little love, here's what the routes looked like in 1974.


[Edited 2013-06-25 11:16:11]

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User currently onlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 6065 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4216 times:


Hard to believe (now) DFW airspace without Maverick, Cowboy and Ranger, and the corners where they are now.

If you're liquidating charts, I might be interested in acquiring a few representative ones form the area (just don't tell my wife!).

...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlinewoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1190 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4173 times:

Going thru the boxes in the garage earlier this year, I had just dumped of a whole bunch of charts and plates from the early 1990's into the recycling bin as well. They had survived round after round of going thru and discarding, but this time I decided to actually get rid of them...

It was like a time trip going through the arrival procedures for the Scurry, Bridgeport, Blue Ridge, and Acton arrivals into DFW.

Bonus animus sit, ab experientia. Quod salvatum fuerit de malis usu venit judicium.
User currently offlinerolypolyman From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

I have some DoD 1982 plates & enroute charts for around the world. I think there probably isn't a chance in hell I'll be able to scan all of them as I'm not going to scan 2000 pages with a flatbed scanner, but maybe when I have time in July I'll start a thread in July taking requests for specific airports & areas.

User currently offlinectempleton3 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

What is that short runway depicted on the west side of DFW in the Dallas 7 departure. That runway isn't there today.

User currently offlinewoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1190 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

18S/36S. It was the STOL runway. You can still see the runway designation markings today on the G taxiway. Although you'd have to look really hard. The paint was scraped off the runway. So the runway numbers are still visible by looking for missing pavement rather than looking for painted over paint.

[Edited 2013-07-04 20:57:28]

Bonus animus sit, ab experientia. Quod salvatum fuerit de malis usu venit judicium.
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