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Which Airlines Do Not Use Amsafe Seatbelts?  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6386 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6086 times:

For those who didn't know, almost all airlines use seat belts made by Amsafe. However, there are some exceptions. One notable exception is Southwest, who uses seat belts made by Davis Aircraft Products (easily identifiable by their short and wide trapezoid-shaped tongue).

Does anyone know of any other airlines who use non-Amsafe seatbelts?


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User currently offlinemusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5942 times:

Talking about these, and slightly off topic, I did notice on my recent easyjet flight that the label on the seat belts says its certified to a force of 3,000kgs


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5850 times:

Quoting musapapaya (Reply 1):

Talking about these, and slightly off topic, I did notice on my recent easyjet flight that the label on the seat belts says its certified to a force of 3,000kgs

Wow. Given that I'm 160 pounds (or, pretending to be 160 pounds), that's a force of about 41 g's.


User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 868 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5711 times:

I think the design requirement is 19g, so that would be about right for a 350 pound person. I just hope he's not in the middle seat next to me.

Much heavier than that and I don't think he would make it out the door at home, so 3000 pounds is enough.


User currently offlinemusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5508 times:

Oh was it 3000kg or 3000 pounds quoted on the seatbelt? I cant seem to remember!


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5495 times:

Going back to the original topic, I actually read somewhere that Alaska uses a different type of Amsafe seatbelt on some of their aircraft, which has a wider, more rounded tongue than what most airlines use.


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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):
Going back to the original topic, I actually read somewhere that Alaska uses a different type of Amsafe seatbelt on some of their aircraft, which has a wider, more rounded tongue than what most airlines use.

Do aircraft seatbelts have a fixed lifespan after which they have to be replaced, or are they only replaced when they appear worn (or excessively dirty)?

Can the hardware parts (buckles and the parts that attach to the seat frame) be reused, with only the webbing replaced?


User currently offlineyeelep From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5339 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):
I actually read somewhere that Alaska uses a different type of Amsafe seatbelt on some of their aircraft, which has a wider, more rounded tongue than what most airlines use.

Not counting the airbag belts, AS uses three different styles of amsafe seat belt. One each for the -400, NG's and NG with Recaro's. I have no idea about how widespread the usage is amongst other airlines but the belt used on the -400 is the one with the wider rounded tongue.


User currently offlineapfpilot From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5059 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
Do aircraft seatbelts have a fixed lifespan after which they have to be replaced, or are they only replaced when they appear worn (or excessively dirty)?

Can the hardware parts (buckles and the parts that attach to the seat frame) be reused, with only the webbing replaced?

They are on condition so they are inspected/cleaned at regular intervals and replaced/fixed as needed.

http://cmm.amsafe.com/CMM/25-21-xx/25-21-43.pdf



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User currently offlineSPQR From Canada, joined Jun 2011, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5026 times:

I looked up a couple of different stores that sell seatbelt extenders, they carry 2 types, one for everyone except Southwest, and one for Southwest.

User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5009 times:

Quoting SPQR (Reply 9):
I looked up a couple of different stores that sell seatbelt extenders, they carry 2 types, one for everyone except Southwest, and one for Southwest.

Yes, I already mentioned WN in my OP. WN uses seatbelts made by Davis Aircraft Products.



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User currently offlinejagflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting SPQR (Reply 9):

It was always my impression that the airline is responsible for stocking seat-belt extensions on every aircraft. At my airline we have two or three on each aircraft.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31568 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4662 times:

Quoting jagflyer (Reply 11):
It was always my impression that the airline is responsible for stocking seat-belt extensions on every aircraft. At my airline we have two or three on each aircraft.

Every Aircraft will have a few for the Pax....



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User currently offlineGrisee08 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4608 times:
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Quoting SPQR (Reply 9):
one for everyone except Southwest, and one for Southwest.
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 10):
Yes, I already mentioned WN in my OP. WN uses seatbelts made by Davis Aircraft Products.

WN just HAS to be the odd one out don't they lol.  



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User currently offlineSPQR From Canada, joined Jun 2011, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

Quoting jagflyer (Reply 11):

Yeah, I don't even know if they are legal to use despite the vendor saying they are certified. This thread says no:
Banning Of Personal Seat Belt Extensions? (by skyhawk Aug 14 2012 in Civil Aviation)

(sorry for getting a bit off topic)


User currently offlineGrisee08 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3524 times:
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Basically, as weak as they look, they have to be certified to hold up to 2 tons IIRC (or 45Gs) The only problem with that is, the seatbelt will simply slice through the body if the impact is brutal enough.


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User currently offlineEYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Back to the topic. Dutch airline Transavia is another one who uses seat belts from Davis Aircraft Products.

A propo, similar discussion has been held here in Tech Ops a couple of years ago: Why So Few Seatbelt Manufacturers? (by Viscount724 Jan 10 2011 in Tech Ops)


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