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Largest Aircraft With Non-Retractable Gear  
User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 22
Posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7007 times:

Did a quick google search but couldn't find anything.
What would be the largest aircraft with a non-retractable gear system? C208? There has to be something bigger yet.

Cal   


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

Twotter is my nomination:


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User currently offlinevzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

ANT-20?
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/mt/flightglobalweb/blogs//aircraft-pictures/2008/05/16/ANT-20bislarge.jpg



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6897 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

   That is something that 2H4 would totally have come up with! Good one!



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6865 times:

Beat me too it Vzlet.....almost but same plane of thought.

But I think I need to blunt out that ANT-20 had a big brother with an additional pair of motors mounted in a pod over the fuselage.

It was flow as a propaganda machine and was destoyed when an idiiot flying an escorting I-16 fighter (for size comparison) decided it would be cool to loop the loop around the wing.....he didn't make it.



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User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17017 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6826 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

You, Sir, win the Internet...

Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
It was flow as a propaganda machine and was destoyed when an idiiot flying an escorting I-16 fighter (for size comparison) decided it would be cool to loop the loop around the wing.....he didn't make it.


To be fair this was the third loop so he was at least trying to miss 2/3 of the time.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6728 times:

Quoting FighterPilot (Thread starter):
What would be the largest aircraft with a non-retractable gear system? C208?

Some C208s have retractable gear.  
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User currently onlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6493 times:

The Ju 52 is pretty big too. Once very common, still a few active.

User currently offlineKPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 442 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6317 times:

How about the Blackburn Beverley? Double bogie mains hanging out in the breeze...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Blackburn_Beverley_C.1_XB289_47.V_Blackpool_10.06.57_edited-2.jpg



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User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6267 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

For sure that plane is bigger than the Kalinin K-7 though on another vein, the latter's landing gear assemblies look to be larger.



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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3501 posts, RR: 66
Reply 10, posted (11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

How to measure biggest?

In terms of wing span and length, it's the ANT-20.

In terms of MTOW and power, it's the Beverly.

In terms of poor utility and technological dead ends, Both.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6251 times:

Actually come to think of it, did the Messchermit Gigant have fixed gear?


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7695 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6238 times:
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Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 8):
How about the Blackburn Beverley? Double bogie mains hanging out in the breeze...

What a great plane. The gear probably wasn't worth retracting, given that the plane looks like it would cruise roughly about as fast as I can walk anyway.  



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6231 times:

How about the Kalinin K-7?
See photos in Reply #26 in this thread: Biggest Wing? (by RussianJet Aug 20 2013 in Tech Ops)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinin_K-7
http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=Russian+Kalinin+K-7

[Edited 2013-08-29 09:34:58]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_8GGhY6kA


[Edited 2013-08-29 09:37:31]


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User currently offlineboeingfixer From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6222 times:

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 10):
In terms of MTOW and power, it's the Beverly.

If we are talking in terms of all aircraft in general, the Mil V-12 has the Beverly beat by about 100,000 lbs. and 11,400 horse power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-12

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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3501 posts, RR: 66
Reply 15, posted (11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6197 times:

Quoting boeingfixer (Reply 14):
If we are talking in terms of all aircraft in general, the Mil V-12 has the Beverly beat by about 100,000 lbs. and 11,400 horse power.

Good point. Didn't think about the helicopter side of aircraft.

Also fits into the poor utility and technological dead end category.



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User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17017 posts, RR: 67
Reply 16, posted (11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 11):
Actually come to think of it, did the Messchermit Gigant have fixed gear?

Yepp. Pretty sure it did. Much lighter than the Beverly in any case.



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User currently offlineKPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 442 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6183 times:

Quoting boeingfixer (Reply 14):
If we are talking in terms of all aircraft in general, the Mil V-12 has the Beverly beat by about 100,000 lbs. and 11,400 horse power.

Ah yes, the aptly named "Homer" (Homer Simpson perhaps?). I knew the V-12 was huge, I never realized it was that huge (comparing those numbers to the Beverley).



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User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2342 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6129 times:
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Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

The NASA Helios Prototype HP01/03 would at least beat the ANT-20 in terms of span (247ft vs. 206ft).


User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6698 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6103 times:

If it had ever been built, this would have won hands down, I'd expect.

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/mi-32.php

They must have had fun times in the Mil design department.



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

Quoting FighterPilot (Thread starter):
There has to be something bigger yet.

This is the landing gear of the Hindenburg:

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4fa442e1eab8ea3d54000002-1200/in-1936-the-hindenburg-made-many-transatlantic-flights.jpg


User currently offlinelarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5833 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 20):

This is the landing gear of the Hindenburg:

If we go by MTOW we are in the other end of the scale.

/Lars



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User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5723 times:

Ok, lets split this into catagories.
Largest size by MTOW, Aircraft size, currently in commercial service for both pax and cargo ops.

Cal   



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User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1080 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

C-212



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User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4402 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4944 times:

I have another candidate : The Messerschmitt 323 Gigant.
Can't upload images due my pàhbucket trouble, but see the GGANT
At 44 t it beats the Ant 20, though a bit smaller in dimensions.



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26 clydenairways : The Boeing 367-80 was also fitted with multi wheel non-retracting undercarriage, for flight tests as part of Boeing's bid for the CX-HLS program in 19
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