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Largest Aircraft With Non-Retractable Gear  
User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1362 posts, RR: 23
Posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6280 times:

Did a quick google search but couldn't find anything.
What would be the largest aircraft with a non-retractable gear system? C208? There has to be something bigger yet.

Cal   


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6269 times:

Twotter is my nomination:


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User currently offlinevzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6247 times:

ANT-20?
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/mt/flightglobalweb/blogs//aircraft-pictures/2008/05/16/ANT-20bislarge.jpg



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6170 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

   That is something that 2H4 would totally have come up with! Good one!



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29698 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6138 times:

Beat me too it Vzlet.....almost but same plane of thought.

But I think I need to blunt out that ANT-20 had a big brother with an additional pair of motors mounted in a pod over the fuselage.

It was flow as a propaganda machine and was destoyed when an idiiot flying an escorting I-16 fighter (for size comparison) decided it would be cool to loop the loop around the wing.....he didn't make it.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16908 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6099 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

You, Sir, win the Internet...

Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
It was flow as a propaganda machine and was destoyed when an idiiot flying an escorting I-16 fighter (for size comparison) decided it would be cool to loop the loop around the wing.....he didn't make it.


To be fair this was the third loop so he was at least trying to miss 2/3 of the time.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

Quoting FighterPilot (Thread starter):
What would be the largest aircraft with a non-retractable gear system? C208?

Some C208s have retractable gear.  
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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1447 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5766 times:

The Ju 52 is pretty big too. Once very common, still a few active.

User currently offlineKPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 412 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

How about the Blackburn Beverley? Double bogie mains hanging out in the breeze...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Blackburn_Beverley_C.1_XB289_47.V_Blackpool_10.06.57_edited-2.jpg



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User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5540 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

For sure that plane is bigger than the Kalinin K-7 though on another vein, the latter's landing gear assemblies look to be larger.



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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3423 posts, RR: 67
Reply 10, posted (7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5531 times:

How to measure biggest?

In terms of wing span and length, it's the ANT-20.

In terms of MTOW and power, it's the Beverly.

In terms of poor utility and technological dead ends, Both.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29698 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5524 times:

Actually come to think of it, did the Messchermit Gigant have fixed gear?


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7623 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5511 times:
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Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 8):
How about the Blackburn Beverley? Double bogie mains hanging out in the breeze...

What a great plane. The gear probably wasn't worth retracting, given that the plane looks like it would cruise roughly about as fast as I can walk anyway.  



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

How about the Kalinin K-7?
See photos in Reply #26 in this thread: Biggest Wing? (by RussianJet Aug 20 2013 in Tech Ops)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinin_K-7
http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=Russian+Kalinin+K-7

[Edited 2013-08-29 09:34:58]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_8GGhY6kA


[Edited 2013-08-29 09:37:31]


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User currently offlineboeingfixer From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5495 times:

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 10):
In terms of MTOW and power, it's the Beverly.

If we are talking in terms of all aircraft in general, the Mil V-12 has the Beverly beat by about 100,000 lbs. and 11,400 horse power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-12

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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3423 posts, RR: 67
Reply 15, posted (7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5470 times:

Quoting boeingfixer (Reply 14):
If we are talking in terms of all aircraft in general, the Mil V-12 has the Beverly beat by about 100,000 lbs. and 11,400 horse power.

Good point. Didn't think about the helicopter side of aircraft.

Also fits into the poor utility and technological dead end category.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16908 posts, RR: 67
Reply 16, posted (7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5462 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 11):
Actually come to think of it, did the Messchermit Gigant have fixed gear?

Yepp. Pretty sure it did. Much lighter than the Beverly in any case.



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User currently offlineKPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 412 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5456 times:

Quoting boeingfixer (Reply 14):
If we are talking in terms of all aircraft in general, the Mil V-12 has the Beverly beat by about 100,000 lbs. and 11,400 horse power.

Ah yes, the aptly named "Homer" (Homer Simpson perhaps?). I knew the V-12 was huge, I never realized it was that huge (comparing those numbers to the Beverley).



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User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2238 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5402 times:
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Quoting vzlet (Reply 2):
ANT-20?

The NASA Helios Prototype HP01/03 would at least beat the ANT-20 in terms of span (247ft vs. 206ft).


User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6604 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5376 times:

If it had ever been built, this would have won hands down, I'd expect.

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/mi-32.php

They must have had fun times in the Mil design department.



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5207 times:

Quoting FighterPilot (Thread starter):
There has to be something bigger yet.

This is the landing gear of the Hindenburg:

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4fa442e1eab8ea3d54000002-1200/in-1936-the-hindenburg-made-many-transatlantic-flights.jpg


User currently offlinelarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5106 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 20):

This is the landing gear of the Hindenburg:

If we go by MTOW we are in the other end of the scale.

/Lars



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User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1362 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

Ok, lets split this into catagories.
Largest size by MTOW, Aircraft size, currently in commercial service for both pax and cargo ops.

Cal   



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User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1064 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

C-212



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User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4143 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4217 times:
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I have another candidate : The Messerschmitt 323 Gigant.
Can't upload images due my pàhbucket trouble, but see the GGANT
At 44 t it beats the Ant 20, though a bit smaller in dimensions.



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User currently offlineatct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2223 posts, RR: 39
Reply 25, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

http://ambidextrouscivicdiscourse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Spruce-Goose.jpg

No gear to retract....

[Edited 2013-09-05 23:51:41]


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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

The Boeing 367-80 was also fitted with multi wheel non-retracting undercarriage, for flight tests as part of Boeing's bid for the CX-HLS program in 1964.

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