RussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7303 posts, RR: 23 Posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2457 times:
Perhaps a better way to phrase the thread question would be to ask why a few have been released, whereas the vast majority haven't.
I can understand why one wouldn't want to release recordings out of respect for victims and so forth, but again, why were some released? Are there any technical reasons why they should or shouldn't be released?
Have there been any relatively recent crash cockpit recordings released at all?
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Quote: The cockpit voice recorder (CVR) tapes recorded extensive talk about the CVR itself and how on Continental Airlines Flight 1713 crew discussions were recorded about the dating habits of the flight attendants. Media broadcast of the CVR tapes, which demonstrated why the crew failed to extend the airplane's flaps or slats for takeoff, provoked such an outcry by pilots that subsequent releases of CVR data have been restricted by law and carefully vetted by the NTSB.
jetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1581 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2122 times:
From what I have read, other than the investigators only the immediate families of the pilots can listen to the actual tapes if they should request to hear their final voices, but they do not get a copy of the tape.
And also I have read that any references to their loved ones during the pilots last moments are not released in the transcript all out of respect for the deceased and their families.
I always remember CNN bragging that the millions they spent on bribing an NTSB official for a copy of the cockpit voice recording of the last minutes of Alaska Airlines 261 was worth it in ratings!
And that incident and bribing are the main reasons why cockpit videos are unlikely to ever be manditory. CNN has shown the world that is IS possible, and that respect, morals and integrity are less important than ratings.
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B777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1143 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1944 times:
Well, generally speaking the public has little interest in these recordings, nor the technical expertise to accurately determine the data provided. The recordings are made to assist with accident investigation, and it should be sufficient for the public to learn of the conclusions, there is no need to be privy to all the details.
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flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6768 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1886 times:
They release the transcripts. I would be against them not releasing anything but I think transcripts is good enough. I don't really see the value in hearing a plane crash. I am sure the pilot unions were against it too. As long as something is realeased thought like a transcript.
Quoting longhauler (Reply 5): I always remember CNN bragging that the millions they spent on bribing an NTSB official for a copy of the cockpit voice recording of the last minutes of Alaska Airlines 261 was worth it in ratings!
CNN got AS 261 CVR? I've never heard that it was leaked or heard it. I have heard the ATC recordings thought. I searched online and have not found anything about CNN getting 261 recordings. Care to share where you got this info?
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Fabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1635 times:
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6): Well, generally speaking the public has little interest in these recordings, nor the technical expertise to accurately determine the data provided.
I would not say so... General public would not be interested in finding them ex-post, but with current state of journalism and tabloid nature of even formerly respected outlets... yes, I think CVRs would boost ratings.
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