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Interesting C-17 On TV  
User currently offlineHarryStanhope From Australia, joined May 2012, 21 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4787 times:

So I was watching some TV the other day and saw an ad for a new Marvel Comic's series called S.H.I.E.L.D - and then this popped up right at the end: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...1/S.H.I.E.L.D._Globemaster_002.jpg

Was discussing with my students how this could/couldn't work - Just thought I'd post here as well to get some more ideas thrown around  

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

I ranted about this on an SF site already. 
- The engines on the rear wing make little sense. They would be stuck in the jetwash of the other engines plus turbulent downwash from the main wing. If a C-17 needs six engines, the way to go is to stick them all on the same wing, An-225 style.
- The rear wing makes little sense, at least in its current form. The added lift would induce a large pitch down moment, making the whole contraption rather unbalanced. A triplane like the Su-47 Berkut, or a canard aircraft like the Piaggio Avanti show that wing distribution must be different. If nothing else having a lifting wing under a downward lifting stabilizer is absurd. Trivia: in landing scenes flaps extend from both wings.


On a wider note on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I feel that the show has great potential but so far has been awfully bland.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30914 posts, RR: 87
Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4572 times:
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It also appears to have two or three decks inside, each about as spacious as a 777.  

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
It also appears to have two or three decks inside, each about as spacious as a 777.

Don't forget that it is entirely occupied by very pretty people. Very much at odds with air travel as I have experienced it.



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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4426 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 1):
The added lift would induce a large pitch down moment

But they need that lift to balance the weight (and the moment, and the thrust) of those extra engines! 
The extra airfoil isn't much of a problem per se - you can tune it all you want to turn it into a controls problem, and even then it should be manageable - but it is useless. Unless there's more to this plane than we've seen so far - such as tilt wings. Or maybe it's two planes in one.

I've enjoyed the show so far - but what I'm really waiting for is more superheroes, more Nick Fury, and more Robin Scherbatsky.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 4):
Unless there's more to this plane than we've seen so far - such as tilt wings. Or maybe it's two planes in one.

Aa far as I can tell, no tilt wings.

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 4):
more Robin Scherbatsky.

Statements from the production company say Robin won't do more in Season 1 than her cameo in the pilot due to commitments to the last season of HIMYM. After that, who knows? Like you, I'd like to see more of her.



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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
Aa far as I can tell, no tilt wings.

... yet! (unless there's a definitive description of the plane somewhere out there? We can't really trust what we see on TV here!)

My point being that there has to be more to this airplane than we've seen so far.



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User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 812 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3640 times:

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 6):

... yet! (unless there's a definitive description of the plane somewhere out there? We can't really trust what we see on TV here!)

My point being that there has to be more to this airplane than we've seen so far

It's a way to get around copyright infringement and royalty payments to Boeing, plus it looks really cool with two wings and six engines. Physics aside, you guys are railing against a universe that has already seen an alien invasion and Norse gods taking to the streets. Its comic book fiction, enjoy it.



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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

I hate to say I almost told you so, but- 


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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3747 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Ludicrous design, sure.

...But compared to a hovering aircraft carrier, this is one of the sanest technological design in the entire S.H.I.E.L.D. universe.



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 9):
Ludicrous design, sure.

Of course it is. But then the show (and all superhero/sci-fi movies) wouldn't be all that interesting if all the technology they had was completely believable off-the-shelf products, would it?



"There is an art, or rather a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 11, posted (9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

They "explained" the engines on the rear wing in the last episodes. The engines can tilt, allowing the plane to hover.


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User currently offlinelammified From Singapore, joined Nov 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

Reminds me of the old 90s TV show Team Knight Rider, when their flying HQ was what appeared to be a modified C-5 Galaxy with tilting engines that allowed for VTOL operations.

See it at 3.10 in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPbR_QALoyQ

Waiting to see what new flying gizmos SHIELD comes up with in the new Captain America Winter Soldier movie...


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