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Questions On ATC,please Help!  
User currently offlineVywh From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2002, 283 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

Hi everyone,

I always listen to the ATC of JFK but I can't fully get what the pilot and the Air Traffic Controller are talking about.Can someone give me some ideas on what they usually metion during the talk?What else must be mentioned in thier conversation?

Thanks for helping me!
Cheers..

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User currently offlineLeftseat86 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

It's much hard to explain. I listened to ATC at LAX everyday, I know exactly what everyone is talking about. You just have to listen.

User currently onlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Buy a book about ATC where all major phrases are explained! ATC is so simple if you know what they say!
Usually the ATC at big airports consisits only of 5-10 different standard phrases!

regards Bjoern


User currently offlineVywh From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2002, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Hi SQ325,can you give me some advice about the books mentioning this kinda thing?

Thanks.


User currently onlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

Here in germany we have a book called "English for Pilots!" published by the "Motorbuchverlag"
At jfk tower you mostly hear:
- Flightnumber taxi into position and hold
- Flightnumber cleared to land / for takeoff runway ??
- Contact ground/Departure on ???,??
- Continue approach expect landing clearance in short final

You must have a shop dealing with aviation stuff at Hong Kong, ask there!

regards Bjoern


User currently offlineVywh From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2002, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Thanks very much indeed,Bjoern..

I think I'll buy that book once I've found it.


User currently onlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3613020696/302-0133373-0048852
here is the german version of this book!


User currently offlineCosync From Mexico, joined Nov 2001, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

ok ok ok dont go buy the book
there is a site on the net which has a defenition of evrything they say in alphabetical order
it is
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/PCG/PCGTOC.htm
best site ever
have fun listening and sometime listen to bankstown tower on the net
a good bunch of blokes in that tower.


User currently offlineVywh From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2002, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Really a useful site..
thx Cosync...

and Thx for your help too,SQ 325....

Cheers. Smile


User currently offlineCosync From Mexico, joined Nov 2001, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

no worries dood
i luv to help
if u have any single queaswtions about what u hear ask me


User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Half the time, you know approximately what the person on the other end is going to say, or at least have very few alternatives. That makes it a lot easier to pick it up. Here's a good link with an example flight to get you warmed up.

Cheers,
Fred



I thought I was doing good trying to avoid those airport hotels... and look at me now.
User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

The website that Cosync mentioned is also available in print. It's in the US FAR/AIMs, and it is called the Pilot/Controller Glossary. I have heard ATC use some phrases that aren't in the PCG (such as "normal speed"), but most are in there.

User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5036 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

Here is some of what they say:


"jetblue 51, wind three six zero at one five, runway three one left, intersection kilo alpha, cleared for takeoff"

"cleared for takeoff three one left through kilo alpha, jetblue 51"

"jetblue 51, contact new york departure. so long!"

"good day. jetblue 51"

"departure, jetblue 51 is one point one climbing 5 thousand"

"jetblue 51, new york departure - radar contact, climb and maintain one three thousand turn left direct wavy"

"direct wavy & up to one three thousand, jetblue 51"

"jetblue 51, contact new york center onetwo eight point three Good Day"

"twenty eight three, so long, jetblue 51"

This flight was headed from JFK to PBI and is an A320.
I also head lots of other traffic, including LH400 (an A340), a Cargolux flight to Mexico, Speedbird 2 (Concorde!!), several american & Delta flights from England & France...both arriving and departing. Live ATC online is so cool!



Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
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