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A380 Catering Question Per Google Maps  
User currently onlineLittleFokker From United States of America, joined Sep 2013, 197 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

So I was zoomed in on SYD international terminal on Google Maps, and a QF A380 is parked at the gate with what appears to be 4 catering trucks parked at the aircraft. One of the catering trucks is parked on aircraft right and is servicing the upper forward galley, and it appears like the base of the catering truck is parked inches from the #3 engine, and once the jackknives are extended and the bed extended, the truck is overtop the wing. I have two questions: 1) Is this a proper description of how catering trucks actually service the upper deck of the A380, and not just an optical illusion caused by Google Maps? 2) How did the FAA and/or Australia's version of the FAA sign off on this procedure as being safe? I know there are numerous ramp vehicles that come into very close proximity of the aircraft during ground servicing, but with the design of a catering truck, it doesn't seem like it would take much of a gust of wind to shift the jackknives into the #3 engine or the wing. I thank you for the answers in advance.


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User currently offlinemwhcvt From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Fairly certain that its an optical illusion based on the fact you can see the inside of the engines would tell me the photo was shot from slightly forward of being directly over the A380


Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24076 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting LittleFokker (Thread starter):
How did the FAA and/or Australia's version of the FAA sign off on this procedure as being safe?

They obviously didn't consider it a problem. Do a Google Images search for "A380 catering service" and you'll find many photos of A380s with catering vehicles servicing the upper deck door just forward of the wing. Two examples below.

http://www.mallaghan.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/P1010250.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Catering_A380_Air_France_F-HPJC_-_CDG_-_2.jpg


User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting LittleFokker (Thread starter):
How did the FAA and/or Australia's version of the FAA sign off on this procedure as being safe?

Because it was deemed safe?

Only one instance I know of so far is an EK A380 in Canada where the catering truck had a hydraulic problem and damaged the upper surface of the wing, which required patching... There might be others, however the vehicles that service the upper deck (and probably lower deck too) have hydraulic arms to stabalise the vehicle during this process...



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User currently offlinekl671 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Quoting LittleFokker (Thread starter):
Is this a proper description of how catering trucks actually service the upper deck of the A380

This airbus document should answer your question. Look at section 5.

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/medi...ata/AC/Airbus-AC_A380_20121101.pdf

Quoting LittleFokker (Thread starter):
How did the FAA and/or Australia's version of the FAA sign off on this procedure as being safe? I know there are numerous ramp vehicles that come into very close proximity of the aircraft during ground servicing, but with the design of a catering truck, it doesn't seem like it would take much of a gust of wind to shift the jackknives into the #3 engine or the wing. I thank you for the answers in advance.

Interesting question. Perhaps someone out there with more knowledge of FAA regulations can tell us if service vehicle design and operation are mandated in the aircraft certification requirements.


User currently offlinehufftheweevil From United States of America, joined Oct 2013, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Quoting mwhcvt (Reply 1):
Fairly certain that its an optical illusion based on the fact you can see the inside of the engines would tell me the photo was shot from slightly forward of being directly over the A380

While the sat photo was taken at a slight angle, it's not enough to produce a simple optical illusion. If you can see from PDF in reply 4, and the photos in reply 2, the deck is actually above the wing. It appears a special truck is used, where the deck slides back before going down. In both the pics in reply 2, and the sat pic on Google Maps, you can see the bed of the truck is extended (longer then the other trucks). Quite a unique truck if you ask me.


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