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User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Does anyone know what exactly the fare that we pay goes for?

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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
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i heard in a discovery channel programme that, a 744 flight from london to new york costs around 20,000 pounds. I guess some of the fare we pay for the flight goes towards stuff like fuel, catering etc. not 100% sure though.


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User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Fuel, crew pay, airport fees, tax, catering, handling and other services, writeoffs on the airframe...

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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3471 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

Everything! It's the company's revenue that must be used to pay the company's expenses..... all the expenses.


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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Fuel, crew pay, airport fees, tax, catering, handling and other services, writeoffs on the airframe...

Hey Fred, do you happen to know those in percentages for any particular airplane? Are they in order from most to least?



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User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

No, listed in the order they stumbled out of the heap of unsorted information which is my memory.  Smile

AAR90 points out another important fact. There's always administration and bureaucracy to pay off as well. If we didn't have those, things might actually get done in an expedient and sensible manner at times and we can't have that, can we?! Big grin

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Fred



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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3471 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

>...do you happen to know those in percentages for any particular airplane?

This is about the only expense information a scheduled air carrier in the USA is permitted to actually keep private (i.e. virtually everything else is required to be reported to the DOT in DOT format). You'll find generic information (guesses really) published in various formats by various public and private entities if you look for it. However; based upon what little detailed information I was privy to at AA the numbers are not close to what management uses in its decision making process.




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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

What about money that goes into making the route profitable? I mean if it is profitable, you're just gonna have "extra money" after all that is spent on the flight is necessary. Can't forget about that.

Of course, so many flights don't make money nowadays.



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User currently offlineVS11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

I know that this is not exactly answering the question about a particular flight but this is a cost break-down for International Scheduled Services according to IATA. The figures are for 1997 but compared to other years, they are in the same range with some exception. Unfortunately, I do not have newer data.

Here it goes:

Cockpit crew - 7.5%
Fuel and oil - 13.0%
Flight Equipment insurance, depreciation and rental 12.8%
Maintenance and overhaul - 9.6%
Landing charges - 5.3%
En-route charges - 4.3%
Station and ground costs-11.8%
Cabin crew and passenger service - 13.0%
Ticketing, sales and promotion - 16.4%
General and administrative - 6.3%

They all add up to 100%. Although different flights contribute in different proportions, you can expect that the cost of a flight is composed of the same components with the same ratio, except for fuel, and now probably for insurance policies in view of the 9/11 tragedy.

Hope this helps.

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VS11


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