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BizJets & Airliners Use Same Engine?  
User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Hi guys.

I recently read about production of the new Falcon 7X corporate jet which will be powered by three 6,100-pound thrust Pratt & Whitney PW 307A engines, which are a derivative of the successful PW 300 series already in service on other bizjets and airliners (unfortunately, these aircraft are not mentioned).

My question is about the PW 300 engine. I find it very interesting to learn that a jet engine is being used on both bizjets & airliners. Mainly because of the difference in weight between the two types of aircraft.

Does someone out there know what bizjets & airliners are using the PW 300 engines? Also, how much thrust do these engines create?

Logic tells me that the size of these bizjets & airliners must be similar if they use the same engine. Perhaps we're talking about the larger Gulfstreams, Global Express's, and Challenger bizjets and the smaller Canadair Regional Jets & Embraer ERJ 145 short range regional airliners. Just a guess.

Any help is appreciated.

Chris  Smile






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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

The PW300 series (PW306B to be exact) is used on the Do328JET.  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2118 times:

The 717, Gulfstream V, and the Global Express all use the same engines.

User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days ago) and read 2111 times:

Hi guys.

Thanks for your replies.

>Flyf15, do you know how many pounds of thrust the Dornier 328's engines produce? Is it around 6,100 lbs like the PW 307 engine? I couldn't find a Dornier website with aircraft info.


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>CV640, Thanks for your info. The engines you are talking about deliver a lot more thrust than the ones on the Falcon bizjets.

GV, engine.....BMW RollsRoyce BR710-A1-10 (14,750 lbs thrust).

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Global Express, engine.....BMW RollsRoyce BR710-A-220 (14,750 lbs thrust).

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B-717, engine.....BMW RollsRoyce BR-715-A1-30 (18,500 lbs thrust).

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*This info is from the aircraft company's websites.

Chris  Smile




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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

The PW306B does not quite pump out the astonishing 6100lbs/thrust of the PW307. Rather, it has a rating of 6050lbs/thrust.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6294 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Let's not forget the RR Tays used on the UPS 727-100s. These are pretty nuch the same engine as used on the Gulfstream.


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User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Also used on the Fokker 100s and 70s

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Somebody beat me to the Tay family.

Don't leave out it's little brother the Spey. It was used on the G-II and G-III, as well as the BAC-111, Trident, Fokker-28, and was the proposed original engine for the 727.



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User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

The Rolls-Royce (Allison) AE3007 is used on the Cessna Citation X as well as the Embraer 135/140/145. The Citation is quite a bit smaller, but faster than the ERJ's. The ERJ is around .78M vs the .98 for the Cessna.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6294 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

.98 Mach? I know the Citation X is fast, but I wasn't aware that it was that fast.


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

Its MMo is actually .92, it has been dived to .98 in testing. I've heard it has almost no range when cruising at .92 though, so have to weigh everything in place.

User currently offlineZiggy From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2008 times:

Looking off of Cessna's website for the X, they say that at .91M and a little less than 1000lbs of payload that is has a range of 3500nm with 45min reserve.
The reason I looked that up, because I heard of them doing a round the world cruise to test the X with it's speeds. I thought I read that most of the trip was done at .92M

Ziggy  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineMusang From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 864 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

The Avro RJXs, both now idle at Woodford awaiting their fate (converting to RJ standard would be too expensive so dismantling is likely!), have the same powerplant as a bizjet, but I can't remember which one.

Regards - Musang


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