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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1496 times:
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As a spinoff to a post I made in Civil Aviation, I was wondering who exactly decides when a particular a/c makes a pushback.

For example, let's say a DC-9 is at an airport that has a pushback vehicle. Can the pilot simply decide that he'd rather powerback the craft?


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User currently offlineContact_tower From Norway, joined Sep 2001, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

Well, I'm sure the owners off the gass faced terminal building allso want to say something about that!  Smile

It's sometimes regulated in the AIP, and I'm sure in the airline SOP as well.


User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

powerbacks have to be approved for a/c type and for the specific airports. when I was with FL, powerbacks were used whenever they could on the DC-9/717 fleet, its much quicker then hooking a towbar up, pushing out, un hooking etc... Also the wx can play a part, ice or water on the ramp etc... the DC-9 AOM is very specific on what wx conditions the a/c can be powered back in

User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1318 times:
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-For clarification, what is AIP?

-Let's say a DC-9, 727 or "the like" pilot, is at an airport like DTW where powerbacks have been observed. And let's say have a tug there but jthe pilot just wants to powerback instead. Is is his decision? In other words, who gives the go ahead to do it?




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User currently offlineContact_tower From Norway, joined Sep 2001, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

"For clarification, what is AIP"

AIP= Aeronautical Information Publication

Contains information on airspace, aerodromes, heliports, rules and regs, etc, etc

It's what Jeppesen and other publishers base their plates and charts on, it is published by eighter the CAA in each country, and allso by the military in some places.

It's a ICAO style publication, and it allso informs useres of any deviations from ICAO practice. (Should be about 10.000 pages in the US version.....  Big grin )


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 1280 times:

Sometimes the pilots tell you that they want a powerback after you've hooks the towbar up. Also certain gates do not allow powerbacks because of the angle of the gate (where I used to work at, one gate was at an angle, we could'nt because it faced a roadway. When we brought planes in, we used two marshallers, one for the entrance to the gate (up until we turned the plane for the final 30 odd feet to the stop point), and one to park the plane.

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