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L1011 And A320 Takeoff Roll  
User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5911 times:

Hello, does anyone know how long a normal takeoff roll for an L1011-500 and an A320-200 is at 1000 MSL at standard temp with a 4 knot headwind?
Thanks for any help!!  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineOldman From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5748 times:

The take off roll shall not exceed the length of the runway....Oldman

User currently offlineMetalBird From Portugal, joined Mar 2002, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5729 times:


Airbus A320-200 , 214 version at mtow (74 tons) (max thrust) normal takeoff roll is 4000 feet, no headwind, at sea level, I see this happen daily at the airport were I work, Horta International Airport (LPHR).
The runway lenght is 5600 feet.


Lockeed I d´ont know, but I think that it is less than 7000 feet, depending in the thrust of the engines and the mtow version.

MetalBird


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5720 times:

Well then Sushka, specify a takeoff weight for the big three engine Lockheed and will give an accurate answer...have all the numbers here. With over ten thousand command hours in the big bird, I should know...but hey if I don't, our Dir Ops (with over 15,000 hours in type) certainly should....

User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5637 times:

Check out this video clip of this Delta L-1011 departing Honolulu bound for LAX. Anyone want to estimate how much runway she used?

http://airside.paradise.net.nz/video/deltal1011honoluluto.wmv



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8202 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

The L1011 (and DC 10) were reasonably sprightly, since they were designed to get in and out of La Guadia.


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User currently offlineLeej From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Jhooper
I reckon she rotated after about 8500ft? Was quite a leisurely takeoff. As I cannot find any data for that runway, it's just a guess.


User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5487 times:

Oh Cedar they were great when lightly loaded like when they departed LGA. Let me tell you when you get a heavy 1011-100 is a dog and they use alot of runway just like that video demonstrates. LGA flight were minimal flts with light fuel loads.


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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5427 times:

Kinda of a side note here, but why don't they just extend the runway at LGA to a more reasonable length, say 9000ft? I'm not too familiar with the airport, but I believe the runways are build on piers, right? So couldn't those piers be extended?


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User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

Jhooper, thanks for the vid. It's been a few years since I've heard that sound!

User currently offline762er From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5298 times:

Imagine the takeoff roll for a flight to atlanta. That was about 50 some seconds of roll.

User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

A good, pretty intuitive equation for calculating the approximate takeoff distance of an aircraft flying into a headwind is:

Takeoff distance = distance for zero wind X [(Vo - Vw) / Vo]²

...where Vo is the takeoff velocity with zero wind and Vw is the velocity of the headwind. Unfortunately, I only have takeoff distance figures for the 320 and L1011 at sea level, so I can't get you exactly what you want...

Cheers,
QantasA332


User currently offlineDAirbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5245 times:
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The longest take-off roll I can remember was on a Delta L-1011 operating DL17 DFW-HNL. We seemed to roll forever before finally rotating and lifting off.


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User currently offlineJetranger2000 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

Wow, that was a pretty long takeoff roll!
I was waiting for them to turn the JATO  Smile


User currently offlineVS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

What a nice sound to hear again.

Only flew the DL L1011 once, never felt safer on a plane. Really felt like it was built like a damn tank.

Cheers,
VS346



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User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 5001 times:

DAirbus yes FLT 17 took alot of runway to get off as a matter of fact it was the flt/plane to watch if you wanted a long takeoff/slow climb if you were a spotter at DFW 2001 and earlier. It took a bit longer than the MD-11's bound for Tokyo or the 777's for Europe adn DC-10's bound for HNL. One of the last days it operated that flt it used just about all of 17R to lift.


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User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4906 times:

Well looking at a diagram of HNL, and guess-timating the location of rotation/ takeoff, it looks to be around 8000ft.

User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

L1011-500, 1000msl, temp 13C, 5 knot headwind, 510,000 pounds (max weight), flaps 14, runway gradient zero, balanced field---

Ground run during takeoff, 8800 feet

Runway required, 10,900.

V1 151 Vr 160 V2 171


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10352 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4771 times:

JHooper, by counting the shoulder markings on the runway (which I'm pretty sure are spaced at 100 feet), I got just about 8,000 feet. Had to estimate though when a taxiway got in the way. I believe that runway is around 12,000 feet (that's what I remember, and also the shoulder markings switched direction at about 6,000 feet).

~Vik



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