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User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 802 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

It is interesting to hear that Air Force One crew uses somekind of its own phraseology.

landing 'clearance'

..'and we are cleared to land' hehe

(this was recorded in June 2000 before the Bush-Putin meeting in Slovenia)

Jernej


I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
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User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 hours ago) and read 2106 times:

what? what do you mean?


"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1917 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

I think Dufo is refering to the fact that it seems AF1 cleared itself for landing Big grin

Once that gear goes down, those runways better be clear!!! hehe  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

I'm not so sure about that .wav file.. I think that the landing clearance by the tower may have been cut out of it. In general AF1 is treated the same as any other aircraft by ATC... though traffic isn't generally an issue  Smile

I can say this for certain, when AF1 was in NH early this year, they were treated the same as any other aircraft (at least by ATC).

The conversation between the pilot and the tower went -something- like this..

AF1: "Good afternoon, tower, (AF1) is with you on the ILS for 34"

Tower: "AF1, tower, good afternoon, check wheels down, winds estimated XXX at X, runway 34, cleared to land"

AF1: "Cleared to land, 34, with three green, for AF1"

The last line is pretty similiar to that .wav file, apart from the "three green" info.


User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

He might have been cleared in by Apporach, some places they do it.


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User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 802 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

The fact is that all traffic from this airport was operated from Zagreb, since LJLJ was completely closed due to this meeting. I have no idea if this sound clip is complete or not, but it's somewhat unusual to hear the landing gear condition thru ATC frequency.

And as PPGMD mentioned, approach control can sometimes give clearances normally handled by the tower (as was the case during my visit to LDDU).

Jernej



I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Reference the landing gear, they flew into PSM, which is a former Air Force base that still houses the NH Air National Guard (KC-135).

At many military fields, pilots are reminded to "check wheels down" as they are cleared to land. This is true for everyone at PSM (172 or KR35!).. I only included it in the interest of loosely quoting the conversation between tower and AF1.

They most likely were cleared to land by Approach.


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4212 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

When there is not much traffic it is quite common to be cleared by approach to land, as well as if you are on an ASR or PAR approach procedure.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineBjones From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

The Air Force requires their pilots to make a gear down call prior to crossing the runway threshold. At military fields they will usually tell you "check wheels down". At civilian fields even though they may not ask the Air Force still requires that the call be made.

User currently offlineFlightSimFreak From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

What about a fixed gear aircraft in that situation (instead of "Three down and locked" is it "Three down and welded"???)

User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

I've heard that before. Otherwise, the pilots usually don't respond with regards to Gear Down.

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