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What Sort Of Job Could You Get With 1100 Hours  
User currently offlineAIRNZsaab340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

I am considering going to a local university. I will come out with: Private Pilots license
Commercial Pilots License
Instrument rating
Visual Flight rules Air Transport Approval
Catagory Cflight instructor Rating Day and Night
Dangerous goods certificate
Simulator Instructor rating
Advanced Instructional Delivery Catagory B
Multi Engine Instrument rating
Instructor Supervisor Course
Catagory B flight instructor Rating B Night and Day
Multi engine rating
Basic gas turbine
Air Ambulance
Pilot Certificate
Advanced Multi type rating
IFR ATO approval
Hypoxia course certificate
Multi engine Instructor rating
Airline crew resource management
Airline transport Pilot License (ATPL)
Degree in operational Aviation
1100 hours flying time total

What sort of job do you think I will be able to get and also what sort of airlines do you think will hire me. Examples if possible. It will cost roughly $33,000 USD
Thanks for your help.

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User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

Can you really get 1100 hours for $33K as well as all your training? That's an average of $30 per hour for the flying on its own.

Good luck if you can.


User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

If thats in the USA, then there is no way that you are coming out with an ATP. The minimum for an ATP is 1,500 hrs.


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User currently offlineAIRNZsaab340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

This is in New Zealand. That is about $90000 NZD so its still a hell of alot of mney.
Thanks
Any jobs you no of for these sort of qualifications.


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Yeah.... but if $900000 NZD comes out to $30000 USA then it's a damn good deal independant of the fact that the NZD figure has more zeros on the end of it. That's like saying L500 is more than US $0.25. (L500 is basically an Itallian quarter).

P.S. If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is (especially in aviation).


User currently offlineAIRNZsaab340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

The reason it is so cheap. Is that once you have your instructor rating. You work for the university instructing the year one students. And then once in Year 3 you will instruct the year twos. It is a really good idea to keep the prices down and the hours up. Does anyone know what sort of jobs I could get with these qualifications.
Thanks in advance
Ryan


User currently offlineLuzezito From Spain, joined May 2001, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

I have been reading your posts lately and have the feeling you are at some crosspoint in your life deciding how to better start your aviation career. I took the wrong direction a few years ago and now it is too late to try anything else than a ppl.

So my advice is GO for it and be the best. Worry about the jobs later!




Quoniam Vita Brevis Est, Propera!
User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Ryan, $30,000 US would be closer to $60,000 NZ wouldn't it?
Anyway, I assume you're talking about Massey University flight training.
I don't know about now, but they used to have a deal with Garuda Indonesia whereby after your training you were posted to Indonesia for a couple of years flying 737s on domestic routes.
As far as I know, not many airlines (and I'm talking regional/commuter here) would look at you unless you had 1500 hours or more.
I spoke to a pilot friend of mine about that course some years back and I got the impression from him that there was a lot of unnecessary content in there.
For example, is an Simulator Instructor Rating or Hypoxia Course Certificate (unless you're planning on flying fighter jets of which we have none) really necessary?
It all adds to the cost remember!

Anyway, If you go for that course, then good luck!
I wish they had that running when I was your age.

Mike (WLG)  Smile


User currently offlineAIRNZsaab340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Yes Mike I am planning to go to massey school of aviation or the EIT school of aviation. The massey course gives you a degree in Aviation management. You spend more time in the classroom then you do flying. And you come out with 250 hours. But at the EIT you come out with 1100 hours and you get a diploma. But hopefully when I do the course in 2 years it will be turned into a degree. This is what they are planning to do at the end of this year. So I need another 400 hours on top of that before anyone will look at me. So that will take around 2-3 years to achieve. So when I leave school and get the 1500 hours I will be around 23 or 24. Cool. I think I will choose the EIT because of the amount of hours you get. And I can live at home this will make it a lot cheaper than massey. But hopefully it will be a degree when my time comes. OR If not I can cross credit to a degree.
Thanks for your help
Anyone know of what the majors want or just the reginals in the US


User currently offlineEssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Going up in an altitude chamber and learning what one's specific symptoms of hypoxia are is invaluable training.

Cheers-


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

My guess would be doing what my dad did. After college when he had all his ratings he flew as a cargo loader for UPS for 2 years then he was picked up by American as a cargo loader on the 707. After a year, he was a flight engineer on the 707 passenger planes for American. Now he pilots the 777. Lucky b@st@rd. Try contacting UPS, DHL, Airborne Express, and FedEx in the USA. Not sure what some other cargo companies are outside the US. Have fun and Good luck.


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User currently offlineTurbineBeaver From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

THAT cheap? (I'm hopping on a plane to NZ for my flight training!).

FlyingBronco05...I'm VERY jealous of your father...hehehe!

TB


User currently offlineTintin From Canada, joined Apr 2002, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

No one seems to be answering your question,I don`t know south of the border but I hear of guys with 3-500 hours getting on the regionals in the states.In Canada 1100 would get you onto a 3rd tier regional Central Mountain Air,Air Georgian,Bearskin Airlines,Pacific Coastal etc.They fly Beech 1900,Metroliners,Beech 99,Banderainte,Shorts 360.
To get onto THE Regional (only one now,Air Canada`s) called "Jazz"(a few hundred Dash 8,BAE146,Fokker100 (being retired)and soon to arrive BombardierRJ`s).To get an interview with the regionals (Jazz)you need 2000 hours,realistically you`ll most likely need more to get on.
Because your coming from a commonwealth country you can get a 1 year working visa for Canada.Good luck,have you thought of Sunflower,or Air Fiji,in Fiji,when I was there a lot of Kiwis were working there.

Anyways good luck


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

TurbineBeaver:
Yeah me too. he's had it so easy compared to times now with it being even harder to fly and stuff.



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User currently offlineAIRNZsaab340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

Does anyone know any airlines around the world that hire with these qualifications. And if no what sort of jobs could I get.
Ryan


User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

AIRNZsaab340,

I'm listening to a great song right now. It's called "Walk, Don't Run." (It's a 1960s surf classic from the Ventures. Great song.) Anyway, I think you and I could learn a lesson from the title of that summer anthem. You exhibit a tendency which I share with you: stressing needlessly about things years in the future which we couldn't possibly hope to control. Walk, don't run. If you'll pardon the golf analogy, it's like worrying about the nasty bunker on 12, but you're still on the 2nd green. Focus on what's right in front of you now, do it well, and enjoy it. Don't worry about what kind of job you can get with 1100 hours. If it's flying checks at night out in the ice, then that should be good enough. It is for me. And so what if you don't get a great job with a good regional right at 1100 hours? It will probably take more time than that anyway. Are you in this for the long haul? Flyingbronco's dad didn't transition to the 777 overnight!

'Speed


User currently offlineAIRNZsaab340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Im not stressing im asking purely out of curiosity.
Ryan


User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

Im not stressing im asking purely out of curiosity.

You go on and keep telling yourself that. But if you weren't stressing, you wouldn't have asked at all. You know you want to fly for a living. That's all that should matter. And trust me here, I need to take my own advice.

'Speed


User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

Luzezito I am only 14 but from what I have read on these boards and on PPRune, I gather its never to late to get into what you love. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and go for it.


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