OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1604 times:
There are some sites out there where you put the "to" and "from" points and it'll figure a distance, but the only ones I've seen give you the great circle distance, and not the airways, departure procedures (DPs), and arrivals (STARs) that airlines and other IFR traffic use.
If you have a couple of city-paits in mind, I'd be happy to work a couple up for you...
Hawkeye2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1452 times:
If you have MS FS, try FSNavigator at http://www.fsnavigator.com/. It has a automatic route function that takes into account airways, and works reasonably well for short to medium haul routes over land. Warning: it does not work well at all for long hauls -- it will give you completely unrealistic routes.
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1450 times:
What you're looking for is a listing of the High Altitude Preferred Routes. I'm sure that they are probably available on the web, but that's not were I personally source them - I use a flight planning program that stores them in its database.
It's Monday morning and I typing this in my hotel room here in Orlando. Yesterday, I flew from our homebase in Klamath Falls, Oregon to Atlanta, then on to Orlando. You are correct about the routing from Atlanta to Orlando. I filed the preferred route you mentioned and was "cleared as filed". The preferred routes are set up to expidite traffic between many (but not all) city pairs that have a lot of traffic volume. (There are also Low Altitude Perferred Routes.) Preferred Routes are commonly used, but not always mandatory - the controllers have a certain amount of latitude here. Personally, I only file them when I'm flying between two cities that are comparetively close together - like Atlanta and Orlando. If I'm going coast to coast, I will file the initial part of the route - about as far as I figure it will take me to get to either FL390 or FL410,depending upon my direction of flight, then I file direct to an appropriate initial fix on one of the STARs that serve the particular airport.
Corporate pilots don't always fly between airline hubs. Most airports don't have perferred routing between them. What the larger airports frequently have are departure and arrival gates that controllors use to route aircraft in and out of the airports. If airports have DPs (SIDs) and/or STARs it's simply a mater of choosing an appropriate DP and STAR then file DIRECT between them. If the airports have neither DP or STAR, we simply file direct.