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Zebfly2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 409 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 12 months 4 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

I noticed this photo was taken at JFK in 1971 and wondered if there might have been any passengers on the engine ferry flight. Are pax allowed on engine ferry flights? Thanks in advance for your replies.

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SailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (9 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 2192 times:

As far as I know: yes, it is possible.

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LMP737 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 4459 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (9 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

About 12-14 years ago United tried to ferry an engine on a DC-10. They had to turn back due to severe vibration.

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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66
Reply 3, posted (9 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2157 times:

Believe the aircraft was certified for that so it isn't a problem

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Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (9 years 12 months ago) and read 2155 times:

Yes, Qantas does that all the time. Qanas does operate a lot of B747-400s into Singapore and there are past cases the B747s had engine failure or some technical fault and QF will ferry another engine of a B747-400 to SIngapore meanwhile operating as a revenue flight too. When the engine has been taken off the aircraft, the aircraft continues to Europe while the aircraft have it's engine change. After the change the B747 flies back with it's own damaged engine under it's wings to Australia, yes another revenue flight.

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B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 12 months ago) and read 2148 times:

B-747 is fully certified for "5th pod" operation with passengers on board, it is merely another payload, yet carried externally...
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LZ-TLT From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 12 months ago) and read 2144 times:

Definitively, the 747 can do it.
Air India 182 (the one which got bombed over the atlantic) was as a matter of fact also ferrying an engine on this fatefull flight

Big777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

What is about 727,737,MD80 and other smaller jets engine? How do they carry engine to the maintenance? Does the truck load can carry engine? I'm just curious how they do that?

Thanks,

Big777jet

Vc10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1343 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

The VC-10 is about the same size as a 727, and when the VC-10 was in airline service it regularly did 5th engine ferries with passengers. I remember when the 747-100 were introduced, their engine reliability was not very good and you often saw 747 with 5th pods for AOG aircraft in Australia. As the story goes the AOG aircraft never got the engine as the aircraft carrying the spare would use it before it got to Australia. I am almost sure that the 707 ferried 5th engines aswell, but the old memory could be playing me up.

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Aer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Is the 747 certified to carry a 6th engine under the other wing, if needed of course.

Martin

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411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Yes indeed, the 707 was certified for 5th engine pod, with those aeroplanes so fitted with the required hardware. Have made two such flights in the past.

Wilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1158 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

correct me if im wrong but doesnt the 707's ferry pod have a farring over the nose making the 5th engine resemble a jetesonable fuel tank i think i recall seeing a picture of it...

L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

Here is a question for you all.

Can any 747 engine be mounted under the wing of any 747 like that?

For example:

Can a 747 powered by PW engines also carry a GE or RR powerplant or is it only certified to carry the same PW engines that are on the airplane.

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JETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

It depends on the company and weather the provision for carrying passengers while ferrying and engine was included in the opertion specifications.

I would venture to say that the crew would have to be trained to ferry an engine with an applicable sign off.

What you can and can't do is contained in the ops specs.... because one company does it doesnt mean another company can.

JET

Broke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

I've seen an ex-CP Air DC-8-40 and NAL 747's in MIA carrying the 5th engine.
NAL used to use this method to take the engines to the west coast to the shop that worked on their JT9D's.

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