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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5049 posts, RR: 15
Posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8849 times:

What does it take to be an aircraft Mechanic? I know they need to have a certification, airframe & powerplant. Are there different types of Mechanics like ones who work on engines and ones who work on cockpit instrumentation, and those who do airframe work? How do you get started in such a career (besides military)? Is there some kind of school similar to a flight school? Do you have to be a licensed pilot & able to fly?

As far as mechanics go, I only know what car & truck mechanics go thru; is an aircraft mechanic also a "dirty" job?

Can you earn decent money & how's the career outlook, especially working for one of the Majors?

bruce


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8825 times:

Well, read the employment adds on www.barnstormers.com and you find out
what people offer and whats wanted.
Best of luck...


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8815 times:

Hi Bruce,
in the UK, usually we take the Apprenticeship route, we undergoe Aircraft Training which is trade biased, you are either,
- Avionic
- Mechanical
We study for a JAR 66 Aircraft Maintenance engineers license, we also work in the hangars to gain the practical experience required to be able to obtain the license.
B1= A+C Airframes / Engines
B2= Avionics
A= Line certifying mechanic
In the US, I think there is a place called ECAT, most of the Mechanics from the US in here I think have been through that school of A+P training.
I think the Certifying Technicians equivalent to the JAR 66 in the US is the Part 65.
Bruce, one concern is your age. Dont let this put you off though.
I applied to an Airline in England when I was 17 and I was accepted into the scheme.
The non educational requirements are usually,
- Mechanically minded
- Logical thinker
- Good trouble shooter
- A person who integrates well into a team
- A person with manual dexterity, which you will have too prove in application interviews.
Although the insight ive given you is UK/Europe biased, I think it's to a persons benefit to gain a wide range of knowledge of the industry.
Good luck with applying too wherever you do, I think the best bet is too get an Aircraft Mechanic on hear to talk too you now who has been through the A+P training, or to make an educational Reply !!,
Very best of luck, hope too see you in Mechanics overalls on a Jollie in the UK in years too come,
Kind regards and best wishes,
a/c


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8794 times:

Sorry Bruce, I didn't read your post properly and only just noticed the, ' Is it a dirty job' bit.
Unless you get a license it is !, Technicians also get their hands dirty from time too time.
In short, yes, it is a dirty job, try wheelspeed transducers...... you will wear lots of Blue Latex gloves. Its a Car Mechanics job on airplanes. The requirements too be an Aircraft Mech are different and theres undoubtedly more paperwork.
Potential earnings for a Licensed Technician in the UK are in excess of 30,000 Pa. Not sure about US.
But YES, you will get very dirty and you will get covered in some of the nastiest crap you could ever imagine 'is that an exaggeration' ? Hope it doesn't put you off !! LOL
regards,
a/c


User currently offlineCdfmxtech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1341 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8760 times:

"Its a Car Mechanics job on airplanes."

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User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8744 times:

Cdfmxtech,
just incase of any confusion, I will type out what I believe from my experience too be the job objective of Both a car and Aircraft Mechanic,

Motor Vehicle Mechanic- this Mechanic carrys out maintenance tasks on motor vehicles and repairs were need be. Car mechanic will also carry out modifications

Aircraft Mechanic- this mechanic carrys out maintenance tasks on Aircraft and repairs were need be. Aircraft Mechanics will also carry out modifications were told too by the manufacturer or were need be and also for customer needs.

An Aircraft Mechanics position needs more academic qualifications and will work with the following differences,
- Closer tolerances
- Work under a Licensed Technician
- Involve A LOT more paperwork
- Work under more pressure
- Involve a wider range of practical skills
- Involve A LOT more theoretical study
BUT they both carry out maintenance tasks/repairs and modifications were need be.
My advice, become a Tech and your toolkit becomes a PEN.
CDFmxtech, after learning my trade and working in an Aircraft maintenance environment, I will take your comment as ignorant and with a pinch of salt.
regards
a/c


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8742 times:

Bruce:

To answer your question "Are there different types of Mechanics like ones who just work on engines and ones who work on cockpit instrumentation, and those who do airframe work?" yes and no. If you have an A&P license you can work on airframes, engines and instrumentation. However there are some people who just have an Airframe or Powerplant license, not both. These individuals typically work in engine overhaul facility or airframe overhaul facility. Like I said there are not many people like this around.

If you work for a big airline there are two types of maintenance, line and overhaul. Line stations are at the airports which the airline flies to. Typically this is where the overnight inspections and servicing is carried out. Non-scheduled maintenance is also performed here, PCU changes, avionics troubleshooting, pack changed etc. At an airlines overhaul facility this is where C and D checks are carried out. The aircraft is basically taken apart and thoroughly inspected.

While an A&P license allows you to pretty much work on anything I notice that people tend to gavitate to something there good at. For example, someone who's good at avionics tend to stay with avionics. They don't for example get up one day and say "Hey, I think I'm going to work in the sheet metal shop today." And vice-versa.

How do you get started besides military? After you get an A&P the typically route is to work your way up. Start off in general aviation then to the commuters and then on to the airlines. Or you could try and get a job working for a company that only does heavy maintenance lie BF Goodrich.

How's the career outlook. Before 9-11 there was a shortage of A&P's. The starting pay for A&P's with no experience is low. This discourages a lot of people from even going to school to become an A&P. That's why a lot of A&P schools have shutdown in the past ten years. After 9-11 there is an artificial surplus of A&P's. Once things turn around I predict the shortage will return.


User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8720 times:

Well said 'LMP737': I concurr. Pretty much answers the original question of the topic in a detailed and yet condensed manner.

User currently offlineFokker Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8700 times:

A/c train
I think you are forgetting two small details.
I don't know of any auto mechanics who are responsible for their work over the entire life of the auto, no matter who owns it.
I also don't know of any auto mechanics who could possibly kill several hundred people with one mistake. Since I've only been doing this for twenty years. Maybe I am showing my ignorance like cdfmxtech. When I am as young as you are, I hope to be as wise.


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8685 times:

i agree Fokker. The fact of being responsible for many more human lives is one key difference which was most definetly important too include.
But Cdfmxtech offered an ignorant comment, that should not be supported in any way, I stated the positions of each job.
You Americans are very confrontational arnt you !!
I think this guy was looking for advice on how to enter the industry, I just gave him some of my knowledge which is most definetly not as extensive as CDF's or Fokkers or NKP's.
Please dont cherry pick comments, I stated the differences between what a Car Mechanic and an Aircraft Mechanic does. I didnt look to write an essay,
many apologies for missing out those KEY details,
regs
a/c


User currently offlineFokker Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8688 times:

Being confrontational is just one of my many hobbies.  Smile Everbody loves a good argument, so don't take it personal. I'm really a fun loving, practical joking kind of guy. Today, after spending 8 hours stuffed into a 737 fuel tank, crawling on my belly, dragging a hose attached to a mask that was forcing cold air down my throat to keep me alive, I just didn't feel like being compared to an auto mechanic. Oh, I almost forgot. Wearing latex gloves is for pansies. ( Just don't tell anybody,that I wear them all the time.)  Innocent

User currently offlineApathoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8689 times:

If you were my kid and you asked about being an aircraft mechanic I would slap you upside the head and tell you to do something worthwhile with your life...and I have been doing this for 15 years. You will spend your career being viewed as a liability to the airline, rather than the highly skilled asset that you really are. You will spend 10 years or more on the night shift, working every holiday and every weekend. You will make less money than the butcher at the local grocery store, yet be expected to know every nut and bolt on every system and be able to trouble shoot and fix it at the gate in less than 40 minutes without using any parts, either because you don't have them, or because your boss thinks they are too expensive to just "waste them" by putting them on an airplane. You will bathe in lovely little chemicals like benzine and Skydrol. You will be responsible for everything you sign your name to for the rest of your life...and yes, you can go to prison for it if you do something wrong, no matter how honest your mistake may have been. Don't get me wrong, the job has it rewards. But, if you are a guy with technical skills and the know how it takes to be a good aircraft mechanic, you can choose from any of a number of other trades which will pay significantly better and have much better working conditions. Guys will tell you that you can work your way into the majors and expect to make $30 an hour within a few years, but that is not reality for a majority of new mechanics. Most will end up slutting at some FBO for $12 an hour until they close the doors and you roll your toolbox over to the next podunk FBO for the next couple of years. Don't do it...Get out while you still can...I know I will take some shit for this and other more "perfect" mechanics will say I am just bitter and if I hate it so much I should get out and blah...blah...blah... I don't particularly care what their opinion is...they don't walk in my shoes. I just think you need to go into this with your eyes wide open. Aviation maintenance is not like the "Hallmark" commercial image American Airlines TV ads show. Honest guys will agree that most of what I said is true. Think long and hard about it, and then go do something else with your life. Good luck!

User currently offlineCdfmxtech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1341 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8667 times:

Ease up man!!!
You've gotta laugh about the creativity. How else can you curse and get away with it!!!

Listen, obviously I disagree but I didn't know you would be so hurt by those comments. Now "we Americans are so confrontational." Sheeesh
I didn't say A/C train is full of sh*t, I just thought your statement was BS.
-----------------------------
Bruce
As for the original question, I'll say this. If you are interested in a career in aircraft maintenance, just be sure you love airplanes. if you do, I say go for it man. They are negatives to every job and I could give you the real low-down on this job...but it would take too long. There are some days (not many because I really love me job) - that I feel exactly what Apathoid wrote. But you know what, I wouldn't trade it for nothing.

I can look at everything he said, and some of it is true. But it is not like that everywhere, and IMOHO, it is not the norm. I personally can find a positive in everything that he said except the first about being a liability instead of an asset. Maintenance is always the thing that airlines think they can get by without, but they never can. They know it, but it kills them.


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8658 times:

A/c train:

Of course were combinational, that's what makes us American!  Big grin


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

LOL, no worrys guys's, its a hard life !!!!,
maybe ill dodge that confined spaces course ?????
maybe in twenty years time when im changing an APU in -10degC in the freezing sleet and snow, I might feel the same as you 'Apathoid' !!
or maybe not !, I love what im doing now!! I would rather be bathed in Hyd fluid than designing a repair scheme LOL !!
many kind regards,
a/c


User currently offlineWhiskeyflyer From Ireland, joined May 2002, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8568 times:

Maybe Apathoid a bit over the top but you have to watch out for yourself in the aircraft mechanics game. I have too many middle aged mechanics, trailing their tool boxes, coming up to me looking for contracts at our company and with their varied contracts, long hours, have contracted AIDS (Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome). The pay is falling behind equivalnt rates in other industries and with the way airfares are going and getting cheaper than bus fares, I do not see the wages going up.
If going for a coarse try to go towards the avionics/electrics route, as airline training is very good in all trades, but with "sparky" skills you will find it easier to get a job in other industries outside of aviation when the down turns hit (which happen quiet often in aviation). Make sure you get a licence and not a company approval (if your in Europe). Good luck with the profession but look after number one (ie yourself) and ignore what the company human resource depts tell you (they just want slave labour)


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8555 times:

Do I know you ??? you must be an FLS guy, only people who work for them talk that way !!.
Some very intelligent input there, you have said what quite a few people have told me and you speak a lot of truth.
Not to keen on the AIDS bit !!.
I would like hearing about the better parts of the industry sometimes !! makes one whos on the Dual trade path feel better. Its not all bad !.
regs
a/c


User currently offlineEALBuff From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8501 times:

Bruce,

If 'Apathoid' and others who are painting the 'glass half empty' side of the story haven't changed your mind yet, then might I suggest an excellent school here in North Florida not too far from you.

Florida Community College (FCCJ) recently open a brand new, state of the art aviation maintenance training facility at the old Navy base of Cecil Field (VQQ). The program is designed to send you out the door as a fully qualified A&P with enough hands-on experience to get you in a position at any major airline. And a AA degree as well.

Many schools will only get the A&P tickets, and then send you out into the real world, expecting you to work your way up the food chain with low paying jobs at mom & pap FBO's as 'Apathoid' described. But if you want to by-pass all that, then this school is intended for you.

The FCCJ facility has all the heavy equipment needed, FedEx recently donated a fully functional B727 to the school (a former Eastern plane I was told), and the Navy is donating a DC-9 sometime this summer. Aside from that, they also have a half dozen other smaller GA aircraft, all in perfectly flyable condition.

The school has also worked out a deal with the Navy, where you will spend time at their DEPO Level facility at NAS Jax. Once a week, you will work along side other A&P's getting OJT on Navy P-3's and other Navy aircraft. They also will pay you a decent hourly wage with some benefits while doing this.

Anyway, just thought I you would like to know. They have a web site if want more information http://www.fccj.org/ACE/. I'm not pursing this path my self, but one of the members of my Flying Club is the man who established this new facility and oversees the school. He gave us a tour of the facility at our last flying club meeting and I was very impressed to say the least.

Good luck with what you decide to do, and I've always thought, given a choice between being a aviation mechanic or auto mechanic, I would definitely go for aviation!


User currently offlineWhiskeyflyer From Ireland, joined May 2002, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8448 times:

Hi A/c Train,
I am not at FLS but I know them well, I have worked now four different countries on two different continents, and sorry to say not much difference in any of them as regards treatment of mechanics


User currently offlinePopee From Pakistan, joined Feb 2001, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8447 times:

As a contribution from my side, many people hv fantasies about being in touch with aviation.

A man used to visit airport daily. He used to stand in front of the fence and keep gazing the incoming & outgoing aircrafts. He noted that as soon as a/c parks, a driver used to drive Flush Cart near the a/c, takes out a hose and connect it to the a/c to collect the MATERIAL. In this process some spillage was definite to fall on his body. This scene was repeated on every a/c, and noticed daily by the man. He developed a soft corner for that driver. One day the man got emotional, called the driver and offered him a white collar, highly paid office job. The driver listened in disbelief and shouted "MAN, u want me to leave AVIATION. "


Popee.


User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8564 times:

Bruce, being an aircraft mechanic can be one of the most rewarding, thankless, challenging, frustrating jobs that you can ever have. If you haven't already guessed, I am trying to say that there is both good and bad associated with this career path. Let me explain:

As a kid, I was fascinated by airplanes. I built models and read all the books I could get my hands on. As a young teen, I took a ride on a helicopter at a local fair and decided right then that I wanted to have a job somewhere in aviation...I just didn't know in what capacity. In high school, I was fortunate enough to attend a school that had an Aviation Maintenance class in its vocational department. For two years, I spent two hours a day rebuilding reciprocating engines, shooting rivets, building wooden wing ribs, timing magnetos, etc. and I loved it. A recruiter from Spartan School of Aeronautics came to our school and I chose to attend there instead of joining the Air Force which was, in my mind, the other alternative. I moved to Oklahoma and earned my diploma, graduating with my A&P license in 1991. I was ready to set the world on fire.

One problem though, the aviation industry was experiencing a recession the size of which it had never seen before. I sent out hundreds of resumes across the country, but no one would grant me an interview. However, I did receive two large shoe boxes full of "Thank you but no thank you" letters. Over time, I got the feeling that if I set myself on fire and ran through the human resources department of any of one these companies, no one would bother to put me out. It was the classic conundrum: I didn't have enough experience to get a job and no one wanted to give me any experience.

I ended up taking a job in my hometown at a lawnmower repair shop, working on Briggs & Strattons instead of Pratt & Whitneys. I stayed there for two years while I continued to send out resume after resume, made payments on my student loans and attempted to raise a family on $8.00/hr. I was disappointed and angry and I felt that I was forgetting a lot of what I had learned while in school.

Finally I couldn't take it anymore. I took a chance and moved to Tennessee. By a stroke of luck, I landed a job working for a small cargo airline which flew 707's and DC-8's. I was making $13.00/hr and feeling pretty good about myself until they laid everyone off four days before Christmas. Back to square one. I pounded the pavement again, looking for a job, but no one was interested. Dejected, I moved back home.

I took a job fueling and towing light aircraft at an FBO for $5.50/hr just to stay around airplanes. By another fortuitous twist of fate, I got hired part-time by another cargo airline which flew DC-8's exclusively. Luckily, my prior experience on 'Eights got me the job. Everything was great for a month, until the company announced that they were moving the station to Denver. I was out of work once again. I pleaded with the regional manager of MX to keep me on staff. My station manager put in a good word for me as well. Finally I was told that, if I paid for my own move, they had a position for me in Salt Lake City. I sold everything I could to defray the costs and moved the wife and kids out West. Six months later, the SLC station closed. I was transferred to Austin. Six months later, the AUS station closed. I was transferred to DFW. Then the stress of the moving around finally took its toll. My wife left me and the kids. You see, A.I.D.S. isn't just an industry joke, it really happens; it happened to me. For four years, I was a single parent of two with no child support, trying to work the unpredictable hours of a Line MX mechanic for a small airline. When my kids decided to go live with their mother, I figured I had nothing to lose and I applied with Southwest. I got the job on the first try. I was lucky; I know many mechanics that had to interview several times before they got hired with SWA and I know many, many more that interviewed there multiple times and never got the job.

Now, after many long, hard years I feel like I have finally arrived. I am fortunate to work for one of the best airlines around and I am happily remarried.

The point of all this is to let you know that the road you are considering is long and full of hazards and broken dreams. I don't mean to sound dramatic; I speak the truth. I have so many stories which I could share similar to mine and most don't have a happy ending. As mentioned before, you will be subjected to extreme cold and heat, soaked in hazardous chemicals, expected to work in confined spaces and at potentially deadly heights. You will be looked upon as inferior by certain pilots who feel that they are somehow better than you. You will rarely hear the words "Thank you". You will most likely work long hours, spend extended periods of time away from loved ones and be viewed as expendable by management. You will be paid less than other types of mechanics that will never face the same liability as you.

Having said all that, sometimes, when you troubleshoot and fix a problem and you know you did everything right, the plane makes its gate and all the passengers and crew make it to their destination safely, somehow it all feels worth it. You don't get that kind of satisfaction overhauling transmissions or changing spark plugs.

So if you really want to do it, I say go for it. But if you view this field as just another interesting job or a way to earn a paycheck, you may be sorely disappointed. You have to love airplanes; you have to be committed to this type of career. In other words, it has to be in your blood. The position demands it.



Patrick Bateman is my hero.
User currently offlineCdfmxtech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1341 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 8410 times:

737doctor - Well said!!!!

User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 8377 times:

Incredible story 737doctor, your a remarkable person too have never given in when you've been kicked up the backside so repeatedly in your career thus far, your current position sounds well deserved with a long and prosperous career still ahead. The AIDS thing has been mentioned too me a few times but I didnt have any clue of the potential effects.
many kind regards and all the very best for the future,
a/c


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8351 times:

737doctor:

Excellent post. One would have to be truly dedicated to ones profession to stick it out in such cicumstances. Myself, I guess I've been "lucky" so far. When I got out of the Navy was also the high point of the airline recession in the early 90's. So I went off to college. When I graduated the airlines/ aerospace industry was in a hiring frenzy. I was fortunate enough to land a job at Boeing. From there, with Boeing on my resume, I was able to land a job with the airlines. And so far I've been able to avoid the layoffs.


User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8269 times:

Cdfmxtech, A/c train, LMP737, thanks for the kind words.

They are very much appreciated.



Patrick Bateman is my hero.
25 Avioniker : After 35 or so years working on most of the larger and higher performance planes, I have finally arrived at a simple analogy for the difference betwee
26 HAWK21M : Has The Situation Improved over the Years.Currently out here We are Experiencing a Demand due to the Aviation Boom.How long will that last is Anybodys
27 Lucky42 : 737 doctor brings up some excellant points...but I have to side with apathoid on this one. My cousin who was a GA A@P tried to talk me out of going to
28 Post contains images Avioniker : I've been doing things to planes since 1964. I started by pumping gas and changing tires to pay for flight lessons and graduated to dumping lavs and i
29 Matt72033 : wow.......pretty much every mechanic ive worked with says the same thing!
30 Aogdesk : Not this one. If my son(s) wanted to go into aircraft maintenance, I'd explicitly detail all of the issues described here as so many others already h
31 Matt72033 : exactly how feel, i'm currently half way through my apprenticeship and having the time of my life! i'm extremely excited about the rest of my career,
32 Post contains images HAWK21M : Agree to the above 100%,It seemed as if I was Writing/Typing it. What Injury. Since 1989 its been positive Every day/Night for me till date.Things ha
33 Matt72033 : thats what i love most about it thats how i feel, i dont feel like i've done a days work....it feels like a day of fun with friends!
34 DL1011 : I'll have to side with the "what the hell are you thinking, don't do it" crowd. First the positive- I still enjoy the work. I LOVE the travel benefits
35 Ilikeyyc : Bruce I don't know if it will help, but since others have done so, I'll share my short experience as an A+P. I originally went to school to learn to f
36 Post contains images N8076U : DL1011, wise words. I had to start out working the ramp loading aircraft to get my foot in the door. Then I transferred to maintenance after a couple
37 HAWK21M : Another Thing I've noticed with most A&P personnell,is that most are seperated or Divorced.I found the Numbers to be quite high. The job must take a l
38 DL1011 : "Another Thing I've noticed with most A&P personnell,is that most are seperated or Divorced.I found the Numbers to be quite high. The job must take a
39 Aogdesk : DL1011, would you believe that alot of people don't understand that, and they think they're going to be top of the heap forever.
40 Post contains images HAWK21M : Thats a thought.Im lucky We can manage to devote 100% Weekend Family time,after 5 nights/week.Hope it always Continues. At Times I wonder if any woul
41 LMP737 : About a year or two ago I had a "discussion" with a CSA from another airline about this sort of thing. He complained and I quote "You have no clue wh
42 MD11Engineer : This also applies to relationships with friends. Since you'll be working mostly when your friends are off, sleeping when they are awake or having you
43 Post contains images Nonfirm : That why i tell them to check with ops for the updates the agents at my work like to come down right to the a/c and stop us from working to answer th
44 HAWK21M : Thats Very true. I guess Hence Friends are Mainly Night Duty Personnell.Not to add Studytime eating away those Free Hrs. regds MEL
45 NKP S2 : That, and phone calls, lots of them. You're finishing a major job requiring lots of close-up and paperwork ( which is strewn all over the table in fr
46 MX757 : I can relate to all the above posts when it comes to the negatives that comes with the job. I use to let all that bother me! But do you know what? I d
47 Post contains images HAWK21M : I usually tell them a Fixed Time frame & will get back to them if there is a Change in that Time Frame. I never mix Home & Work ever.Although at time
48 Lucky42 : i will give it to MX757....He is in a good station with a good airline (atleast now it is) So I am happy for him....there are a few people who can get
49 HAWK21M : What changes the Companys Attitude.Is it the People on Top. regds MEL
50 HAWK21M : What Do you do if you feel You've had Enough.Do you Quit or Strive harder to Solve that problem which may not be Mx related at all. regds MEL
51 B737700doctor : I cant complain too much. I only work 3 days a week, no great days off but 4 days off in a row not too bad. But I agree with some of the other post. S
52 EMBQA : Listen to the Doctor..!!! That comes from someone that works for the cream of the crop of employers in this business......!!
53 HAWK21M : What Department would that be.Are you an A&P on the B737. Is it a 12hr shift. regds MEL
54 DC8FriendShip : I started aviation in '97working a part time job loading heavy cargo. I'll have to admit cargo is the most fun, but the pay was ridiculous (7.50 Hr) a
55 Post contains images HAWK21M : Out here from Mx point of View.Cargo is best,more peacefull,less pressures & pays more.The only drawback would be Night shifts. Thats a tough part of
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