B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3541 times:
The last FAA medical first class in USA that I took was in 1998, I did cost some US$170 or so with EKG... In my country I take an exam equivalent to that one each 6 months... for the cost of some US$15.oo reimbursed by my airline... I realize that FAA medical examiners need to up their fees according to their premiums of "malpractice insurance" and other obligations...
In my next life I will not be an airline captain, I intend to become MD-GYN...
Probably is more fun... right???
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3474 times:
This has come upon several previous threads and, as I did before, I'd like to warn you guys about holding a higher class physical that what is required by the FARs. A few years back, there were some very good articles in some of the business aviation magazines that made the point that it's probably not wise to hold a medical certificate any higher than what you actually need. In other words, if you only need a 2nd class don't go after a 1st. If you are a private pilot and you're not planning on getting any advanced ratings you probably shouldn't be going for a 1st or 2nd class.
The reason is simple. If you apply for a higher rating than you need and for whatever reason you are disqualified you can not simply amend the application to a lower class. A medical won't be issued and you've ended up opening a whole can of worms for yourself with the FAA unnecessarily. It's happened to more than one pilot, including one of my close friends.
I'm not saying that you guys who are planning on an airline career shouldn't get that initial 1st class medical and EKG, you do need to know if there's anything disqualifying. What I'm saying is that as long as you only need a 2nd or 3rd class certificate you're not doing yourself any favors by holding the higher class physical.
Sllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3429 times:
Actually, you can amend that even more. Since I think 1998 you can get any rating with a Class III. You now only need the appropriate class of medical when you actually exercise the priviledges of that rating. I believe this change was made specifically to encourage private pilots to continue to train and 'expand their horizons' by training to and passing the commercial and ATP rides without requiring them to go through the medical hassle (which, for some folks, might not be possible).
I haven't looked at the details in a LONG time, but it may actually be possible to get a rating with NO medical as long as the DE is willing to act as PIC during the flight (where applicable). But don't hold me on that.
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3423 times:
You're absolutely correct, but I was referring more to those people who, for whatever reason, feel that they have to run around with a class I or II medical certificate in their wallet when it's not necessary for their particular operation. It was around 1997-1998 (I believe) that CFI's were no longer required to have a medical - as long as they weren't acting as PIC. This has put a lot of experienced people back into the cockpit (or simulator) where they can pass along their experience. Personally, I think that it's a very good thing and like you said, hopefully it will also act as a catalyst to get people to "expand their horizons".
777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3438 times:
By the way...
Doctors can charge all they want, but that is most certainly not what they get. Insurance companies are getting the money now, and only pay doctors what they think they deserve. In many cases, with malpractice insurance increasing to astronomical levels (people will sue for a bandaid that doesn't stick), and doctors being paid decreasing salaries (on average, a 30% decline since 1993, when Ol' Bill took office), physicians are forced to make decisions that will affect the level of care they can deliver their patients, and is essentially leading healthcare in the wrong direction. I don't want to incite a riot here, but take this into consideration: If an airline's costs increase, due to higher fuel prices, older fleet, etc., what does it do? It will, quite simply, start charging higher fares, thereby increasing the amount of money it will take in.
If doctors are being paid less money to do the same job, how can they increase charges to match overhead when someone else dictates how much they are paid, and aren't about to start handing more money out?