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What Are These Cartridges Good For?  
User currently offlineDomi.ga From Germany, joined Aug 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Hi all,

what's the function of such cartridges in Boeing aircrafts?

http://www.t-online.de/home/d.ganz/card1.jpg
http://www.t-online.de/home/d.ganz/card2.jpg

Thanks

D.

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User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Not exactly sure about what cartridges are referred to,here are two possible explanations:There are cartridges in the emergency escape slides that inflates these slides when activated.A cartridge is also usually what's replaced when the QAR (Quick Access Recorder) is full.This is part of the aircraft Flight Recorder.


"Luck and superstition wins all the time"!
User currently offlineDomi.ga From Germany, joined Aug 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Hi FBU 4EVER!

Thank you for the quick reply. Take a look at the links

http://www.t-online.de/home/d.ganz/card1.jpg
http://www.t-online.de/home/d.ganz/card2.jpg

and you can see pictures of the cartridges I'm talking about!

Best regards

D.

User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Yes,I've had a look at the links.The text seems like a revision check-list and from what I can gather,this is a cartridge used in the QAR.The text refers to various aircraft systems like communications,electrics,pressurisation,etc.,all of which will at one point or another have a relevant parameter to be recorded in the QAR.


"Luck and superstition wins all the time"!
User currently offlineT prop From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 960 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Fuzzy picture, but it looks like those cartridges that contain microfilm. You stick them into a reader and find what you need. These particular ones are the illustrated parts catalog or IPC.

T prop.

User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4884 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Finally! Something where my OLD tech knowledge comes in potentially handy.

The cartridges do appear to be standard 16MM microfilm containers. A microfilm reel like that can hold thousands of pages of high-quality images.

There were those who predicted the death of microfilm, to be fully-replaced by electronic imaging, back in the mid 80's (when I was in that industry). Yet, film-based storage still exists as a strong option for archival storage of important data (like aircraft tech info or maint records). Why?

Well, consider this: in the early 80's, the most common form factor for floppy disks was the 8" disk; quick, who out here has an 8" disk drive? How about a 1.2mb 5.25"? Or maybe a drive to read the early 12" optical platters?

Focused light through imaged film will always be good technology, when you absolutely have to know the data will be there, and readable, some time later.

Oops, I went off a bit there. The things I'll do to avoid working!

Bye.


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Yep.... They're part of the maintenace manual set for a 737 on microfilm. The letters IPC on the label stands for Illustrated Parts Catalog.

User currently offlineWhiskeyflyer From Ireland, joined May 2002, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

It is a microfiche reader printer cartridge (got over 100 in my drawers for our B707, DC8, YS11 and JT3D engines)
If you are not in the aviation industry go to your local auto shop, preferable one that does older car models as a lot of the older info came on these cartridges, so you may see whats on it. You may be lucky (its an IPC so just line drawings of parts on it). Newer aircraft and car info comes on CD-ROM.

User currently offlineVirgin747 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

We at the Western Canadian Aviation Muesum just got a load of Canadian Airline Stuff... I looked at some and it was quite neat..

User currently offlineBio15 From Colombia, joined Mar 2001, 1088 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I have a question, where are these cartridges located inside the aircraft?

-bio

User currently offlineFokker Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Bio15
They're not in the aircraft. They are located in the maintenance library at any station that performs maintenance. They are for mechanics to use, not the pilots. All maintence procedures, and any part on the airplane is listed there. They are the "Holy Grail" for that particular fleet type.

User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Bio15 I have a question, where are these cartridges located inside the aircraft?

They're not, they are located in the maintenance shop, however, on occasion you have an oddball plane or planes that are either different or new to the fleet where maintenance and engineering documentation fly with the aircraft. Usually until enough tapes/hardcopies/CD's, etc are made up and dispersed throughout the system.


You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1106 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

The cartridges would be placed in a convenient storage place in the aircraft. They would be there only if the aircraft were going to an airport where they wouldn't normally be stocked. Most major airlines don't have them installed in the aircraft as the planes normally only go where they have support facilities.
In the case of the charter operators and many of the freighters who have a large diversity of aircraft there might be a set of carts (specific to that particular aircraft) and a portable reader for the "ride-on" mechanic to use when performing maintenance and servicing at enroute airports. It saves having the mechanic needing to find a fax to get the correct pubs sent to him (or her) so maintenance can be performed.


One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533
User currently offlineBio15 From Colombia, joined Mar 2001, 1088 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

Thanks guys for the replies
-bio

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