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User currently offlineMb339 From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 238 posts, RR: 3
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Do you like the aircraft which you fly?

mb339



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User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

Absolutely love it. Much nicer than all previous aircraft I've flown including the B747-400s, and a few Airbuses.


Etihad Girl, You're a great way to fly.
User currently offlineJgore From Argentina, joined Feb 2002, 550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

What is like to "love" the airplane you guys fly ? behavior, handling, etc ?

Thanks

Jgore  Smile


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2853 times:

Um... YES!

and hey it said this message is too short so i am writing this to make it longer. dum dee do dee dum


User currently offlineDPrush From United States of America, joined May 2002, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2832 times:

Has anyone ever validated the claims of those who say they're airline pilots, CFIs, Privates? For example, Skyguy11 is answering a question posed for airline pilots by saying that, yes, he likes flying the aircraft he currently operates. A quick check of Skyguy11's profile reveals that he is indeed in a 16 to 20 years old bracket, which in theory would make him too young to hold a valid U.S. Air Transport Pilot's license (as per FAA regulations)

Anyone like to chime in?


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2843 times:

How we like the planes we fly... Well I flew a few different types...
I remember one thing, the type of plane "I was flying at the time" was my favorite, simply because I was "accustomed" to it
With the airlines I started with the 727, I considered that plane a "sports car" with outstanding short runway capability, but the 727 was also a "touchy" aircraft to fly, and could get you in troubles easy if you were complacent...
Then I flew the 707, what a nice plane that was, I liked it because it had the same cockpit configuration as the 727, "most switches" were located in the same area, the systems were easy to study for a pilot coming from a 727. The 707 was a very stable airplane, stable as a piece of rock... so when I was on that plane I started to prefer it to the 727...
Then to become a captain, I had to return to the 727... and a year later came back to the 707 as captain as well... Two nice airplanes...
Took a leave of absence, and went to fly DC8s as captain, was a love/hate relationship, very stable aircraft, I did not like the 50 and 61 series, but I liked the 62, 63 and the 73 series, very stable and reliable airplanes...
To learn the DC8 coming from a 707... you better not sleep in the classroom, lots of different designs of systems in the "Santa Monica cable-car".
Then I ended up in the 747... by all means my all-time favorite, because for me it has the same design philosophy as the 707 and 727, so it was easy to study, and its handling makes is very stable. It is probably the easiest aircraft to fly (to "handle")... Put it on the ILS without automatic pilot, it "stays there"... The only problem with a 747, you better learn to taxi an airplane and respect its sheer size... but once on the runway, go for it, it is a pussycat.
What I think of the 747-400, well I dont fly these... been flying many times in the 400 simulators, but I would miss the flight engineer... I flew all my life with a crew of three... If there was a 747-400 with a optional configuration with flight engineer, I probably would love it even more than the old 747s...
This is my opinion... I admire these new technology ETOP twins flown with a crew of two and EFIS/FMS gadgetry... but I am glad I shall retire before being forced to fly one of these...
When I was a young kid flying with these old experienced ex-DC6/7 or Connie captains, they missed their prop planes and some had problems adapting theirselves to the turbojet technologies... I failed to understand why they hated the 707 and 727s... I assume I have the equivalent problem now... sticking to what I know better...
Just was my opinion (s) Skipper  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3438 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

An ATP is only required for acting as captin (in a part 121 operation?). A CA will allow you to operate as Copilot and in other types of flying (135?). At any rate his homepage shows the planes he's flown... all single engined pistons. Maybe he missed the airline part of the post title? At anyrate, it seems we've had less fakers than we did a year ago, when it was virtualy rampant wit hthe liottle buggers (especialy on the "who is a pilot" threads).


When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

B747skipper

Have to agree, the 707 was/is one fine aeroplane. Did seven years in the 707 (all command, my first jet) before moving into the L1011...another aircraft where, if you fell asleep in ground school, it would eat you alive.
Steam gauges forever...at least for me.
Some of the younger guys will never know, unfortunately.


User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2568 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

I've been lucky enough to fly both "steam gauge" and EFIS planes. Both are great in different areas, although I'd have to say (sorry 411A) that I prefer the newer aircraft.

It's not a very extensive list, but I've flown both the DC-10 and 767 for Hawaiian. The DC-10 is probably my least favorite plane in part because of the way we flew it - almost always a max gross weight takeoff. The performance at those weights wasn't very good, and with the high wing loading it was a lead sled on descent and approach. You had to be careful on approach and landing because if you took the power off a little too soon, you went down, right now! Also, just the age of the planes worked against them as we often had a lot of maintenance items deferred awaiting the next heavy check.

The 767 is the best plane I've flown. Great performance, much better handling (more like a big Cessna 172 than a Mack-truck-DC-10) and (to me) much easier to land. Besides, I love the smell of a brand new plane.  Smile

HAL



One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

No problemo HAL, different strokes for different folks.

Can recall years ago, in my first 707 (-331, JT4 powered), good grief...what a piece of cr@p, sloooow engine acceleration, HEAVY on the controls, switches the "wrong" way (TWA aeroplane), parallel yaw damper.... but once you master the machine, it's great.

Hey, the older machines have "style".


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Dear 411A -
For one reaon or another PanAm got some of these 707-331 with JT4s from TWA... they "modified" the overhead switches to the "regular" on/off... remember that they had freons rather than air cycles...
Parallel "jaw" dampers, yeah...
In my posting about the 707, the 727 and the 747 above, I failed to mention "yaw dampers", extremely critical on a 727, soso critical on a 707, but on 747, with dead yaw dampers the plane flies ok really. When I say the 747 is a stable machine I mean it... extreeemely stable... How was the L-10?
I know you were with SV at one time, 411A, did you ever meet Rodney Boone, L-10 production Lockheed test pilot, what a super guy, I know he spent a few months in JED at the Lockheed compound, near the "Creek", we used to exchange recipes for winemaking... and taste each other's production... I am not a sadiqi fan... Even the SV City distillery production of 12 years old "sadiqi" - by appointment to HM King Khaled was not that good...
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

DPrush, OOPS! Thanks for beating down my OUTLANDISH error! LOL! No, I am not trying to be a faker, I simply read the question and in my horrible forgetfulness.....replied! I realize that my reply of 'yes' rocks the world and COMPLETELY ruins this thread but please allow me to come clean: I am in fact 18 (which is why I'm in the 16-20 bracket!) and also....hold a pilot's license! Yea! I also like the plane I currently fly!

Ok, ok sorry for all the sarcasim but really, if I wanted to be a faker I would have simply lied on my profile, and I would also be answering tech questions such as 'what does the humdinger gizmo on the 777 do when in cruise flight'. Had you done an even deeper check you would have seen that never have I attempted to be someone I am not.

Finally, on a thread like this, would it really matter if I was a faker? I mean seriously, what's a 'yes' or 'no' answer going to do to hurt the overall effect of the question?


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

By the way, in all of my bitching above  Smile I forgot to mention one thing:

I really appreciate you actual airline pilots on this forum. The job you've earned is my goal and I think it is great that you donate your time to something that inspires and promotes young people's (like myself) involvement and progression in aviation. Thanks again!


User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2568 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

I'd also add that of the commuters, the SAAB-340 was a GREAT flying machine. Very reliable, good power (B models, at least) and just the right feel on the controls. Very stable for approaches, yet light enough so you feel you are flying the plane, not herding it through the sky. And bring the power to idle, point the nose down, and with those big flat blades adding drag you can do 4000+ feet per minute down. Quite a ride. The biggest downfall is of course the turboprop noise, and in the summertime, big cockpit windows with no air conditoning on the ground. Ugh.

HAL



One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Dear Skyguy11 -
A few airline guys prefer to be in their rooms of their hotel and chat about airplanes on their laptop, rather than at the bar and digesting booze...
Aviation is no-nonsense exact science and all is logic...
I adore some of the young kids here, learning about airplanes and try to provide them with the best knowledge I can give... I learned the same way in my early airline days and I miss these captains who had to retire... in a very few years I will retire on a Brasil beach, sipping my hot "mate" herb tea, or something more potent and watch girls in bikinis, and still be on a laptop to write about these airplanes I flew... probably nobody in the audience around me will believe I once flew airplanes...
One day maybe you will be an airline captain and me in my wheel chair as your passenger. I will keep my seat belt, I know about unexpected turbulence, dont you worry...
All the best, always nice to have a captive audience with sanity...
(s) Skipper  Smile/happy/getting dizzy





User currently offlineShaun3000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

Hey Ejazz, wanna trade planes for a while? haha. It must be nice to be one of the few airline pilots who really does work in the "front office" as opposed to the front closet.

User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

The 777 is fantastic, and better than the 744, which is also fantastic. There are a few things which in my opinion could be better, but it is still a great plane and I love it!!

Ejazz,

Do you like the overhead map light? I think it's a little annoying, and hard to adjust properly without it falling to bits on your hands! Also, the control column seems to be lower , so when I read the charts on the clip they are too low and I have to lift the charts to read them! I am not sure I like the clipboard being placed under the MCP panel either. I always think I am going to drop it on the thrust levers quadrant!!!.....minor points, but the 777 is still great!!


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

B747skipper

Yes indeed, have known Rod for over thirty years, since the old Standard Airways days, where he was Chief Pilot. He could bellow with the best of 'em, and at the younger Saudi's, in Arabic....which they did NOT like at all.


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