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Concord Doors, No Windows  
User currently offlineFly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 10
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

i noticed that the concord doors has no windows, now how could the crew give ok sign to open doors for gate agents, or assess emergency conditions in an event of an emergency

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User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Maybe they use regular windows for that ?

Just a guess...

User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

On most airlines, doors are opened from the inside (so by cabin crew), after ground crew knocked on the door to let them know everything is ok (slide disarmed, depressurisation done )

User currently offlineFly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

744 rules,

the doors are not opened from the inside. cabin crew donot touch the doors except to arm and disarm, the gate agents will knock, then we will give them a thumb up sign to tell them its ok to open, then they will open the door from outside.

User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Fly_emirates,not so in SAS.The ramp agent knocks on the door to signal that jetbridge is in proper position,and auto levelling is operating.Then the cabin crew opens door and confirms that all is O.K. for pax disembarkation.Then the "self loading cargo" leaves the plane.
In the Concorde with no windows in the door,there's no way the cabin crew would be able to signal that door is O.K. to open from the outside,accordingly,the cabin crew does this job themselves.


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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4127 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

The procedure when I worked at GOT (Gothenburgh) was that the agent never opened the door!
This was always done by the crew.
Probably different procedures between airlines/airports (?)


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User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1158 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

most airlines i have seen have proped the door signaling that the door was disarmed/girt bar removed.

My concern is without a window the cabin crew/pax would be unable to assess the outside conditions, potentialy opening an exit into a fire or other unsafe situation

User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Keep in mind the Concorde's doors open outwards.

-Notar520AC


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User currently offlineBellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 574 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Fly_emirates

Firstly, if you get the chance, take a close look at the forward doors on Concorde. Not at all easy to see, but each is fitted with an observation window.

Secondly, the cabin doors on Concorde are routinely opened from inside by the Cabin Crew, as are the cabin doors on many other aircraft and airlines worldwide.

Regards

Bellerophon



User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

Concorde does have a very small window in the L1 door,probably there to allow the crew to see the leading edge in flight.

It is near the bottom of the door and would be no use for signaling the cabin crew.

I imagine that the gate agents just bang on the door!
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