Flyordie From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 50 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1483 times:
Skipper, I'm hoping you can give your opinion on this topic as well...
I am pretty familiar with the United States' standards, as far as requirements for advancement (i.e. flight time, type, etc.) are concerned. But of course, there's much more to learn! Now, going on the assumption most foreign countries have lower standards than the U.S. (and I know a few are equally competitive), how would a hiring board look upon a low-time pilot leaving the U.S. to get turbine time with an outside airline with lower standards.
I am of Hispanic origin, born and raised in the U.S., speak, read, and write well above average, in English, but was considering flying for a Mexican airline due to my fluency in Spanish as well. I am not familiar with their standards. So, I am asking before I make any crazy moves. I made enough mistakes in college and don't want to repeat them.
B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1493 times:
Dear Flyordie -
First thing is foreign airlines - no, they dont have lower standards than US FAA, as a matter of fact many foreign air carriers inspire theirselves directly from US airworthiness and maintenance standards...
You are a Latino and live in USA... and me is the opposite, I was an Irish-American and got "adopted" by the Argentines... just got married to one of the young ladies here and got the citizenship... I never get criticized for speaking "funny" Spanish. They hired me here because of my strong 747 training and management background with PanAm...
Working overseas is never a problem, but you have to be a "local", either like myself, taking citizenship, or being born there... but honest, realize it is difficult to be selected without prior experience... Lloyd Areo Bolivia just had to hire pilots recently, they found only a few qualified licensed pilots in Bolivia so they hired the rest of them in other countries of So America, Europe and USA. Speaking Spanish is basically a must, no matter what. I do admit to speak "Spanglish" when it comes to technical words, they accept that well...
Mexicana is a great airline, so is Aero Mexico and I also know a friend pilot with Aero California... but the problem is, they will say, do you have ATP, do you have jet experience in 737 or DC9...???
I cannot offer you a solution as to going overseas, until you have the hiring minimum, as an example, for us here Argentina, is 500 hours, CPL with IR and ATP written test passed is the bare minimum. In the USA you cannot even take ATP written until you have a minimum of 1,500 hours... All the new hires recently had jet experience, i.e. Citation or Learjet, some even had a 737 type rating they got in the USA...
Be aware that if airlines overseas (like here) offer employment to "lower time" pilots, the written exam to qualify for hire is quite difficult, and require high academic level, subjects not covered in USA flight schools curriculums... we had recently some Argentines trained in the USA, who were not even aware that winds turn counter-clockwise around high pressures in the Southern hemisphere. I did look at some of these exams, essay type (not multiple choice here)...
What I often have to do, is to take candidates in the 737 simulator for evaluation as pilots, have them do a takeoff, level-off at 10,000 feet, fly a few turns and maintain altitude with 45 degrees bank, then a stall recovery, then a holding pattern entry on a VOR hold... finally, descent and
then do an ILS to 200 feet DH with "raw data"...
What to suggest you - I dont know for you, at your stage - pero si puedo ayudarte, me gusteria, si lo puedo, Che
Flyordie From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1432 times:
Your advice is very well taken. I appreciate the time you put into responding to my question. For what's it's worth, I want you to know it was worth every moment. You are a lifetime ahead of me, and I value ALL you have to say!