Mr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2780 posts, RR: 15 Posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
Hi guys.
Are there any private civilian aviation uses for Electronic Counter Measures, or is ECM capability something that only a military needs?
The reason I'm asking is because of the photo below of a private Gates Lear-24 bizjet that's carrying an ECM pod through the skies over Sweden.
The only ECM uses I'm aware of involve the jamming of air & ground radar, and communications, etc, by military aircraft...which Sweden has many of. So what would this Learjet be up to?
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1563 times:
ECM comes in many flavors...
The obvious ECM pods aside, what you're starting to see on some biz jets are one of these... (scroll down about 2/3 of the way and look at the tailcone of the Gulfstream...)
Erj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1535 times:
Its an option from Gulfstream after a G-II took a SAM over Africa a few years ago. Not all areas are secure, and some yahoo's can't tell the difference between a biz jet and a military weapon delivery device.
EssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
erj-145mech:
I heard a rumor someone's reverse engineering an ERJ145 for a SIM...
true?
Erj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1517 times:
True......a large sim manufacturing company has been here for the past week with one of our planes, taking measurements and weights in different loading configurations (fuel imbalance, etc). They're spending a ton of money on this project.
Mr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2780 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1471 times:
Hi guys.
Thanks for your replies.
>LY744, that was a great link to Saab Nyge Aero's website. It did explain exactly why their Learjet-24 had an ECM pod on her in 1987. Today the company's Special Flight Operations (SFO) division operates Learjet-35s, Mitsibishi Mu-2s, Cessna 310s and beech 2000s. They are a service center for both military & civilian aircraft where they complete training and inspections of various products and systems.
I had a feeling that this company was contracted out by the military, but forgot to mention it.
>OPNLguy, that link about the American International Group (AIG) was very interesting. Some of the security measures they take at AIG when their corporate aircraft are going to depart on an overseas trip are quite amazing, such as cross-matching blood types between the passengers and flight crew incase a transfusion proves necessary, thus no local blood sources will be needed. Both pax & flight crews need to use fingerprint scanners before gaining access to hangars. They have digital security cameras with satelite datalinks. They use armed guards with double-barrel shot guns to protect their aircraft while on the ground. Some of their aircraft have ECM capabilities to protect against surface-to-air missles, etc, etc, etc! WOW!
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12701 posts, RR: 80 Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1410 times:
The UK services use Falcon 20's operated by FR Aviation fitted with ECM for training, most notably in the weekly simulated attacks on RN ships in the English Channel, the Falcon's work with BAe Hawks, the small jet trainers simulating anti-ship missiles.
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