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User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

Dear Friends -
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I try to provide you all - alongside other airline people or pilots with the best information available - and at times, opinions based on my own experience - and when answers are provided - some of you continue to dwell into your own ideas - such as "this airplane flew supersonic", or "this airplane flew some 10,000 feet higher than certificated"... sure... it may happen...
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My only expertise is the 747 classic, and old 707-727-DC8s, as well as Learjet and I am a Super Cub owner and lover... I love to assist those of you who are dreaming to become pilots, or are interessed in what pilots think...
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I am not the only one supposedly "expert" here - I do not consider myself as one, I just provide answers to the best of my knowledge and judgement. To questions such as "can normal airliners fly supersonic" answer is NO, not the 747 or the 990... they may have done that - by accident... When I say NO, there is a number of you that say "yes but..." or "if..."... my answer still NO.
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I love to read all about your enthusiasm... things are different from what you dream of, in the real world. If I know an answer - I post it - If I am not sure, I may answer with "to my opinion" or "I believe that" or "looks like this"... I am not expert, just educated by 45 years of my life as pilot, I am 59 of age, did fly gliders at 14, and since then US Air Force, airlines, and general aviation, and I am at this time in airline management, and avid 747 instructor pilot and on weekends flying a Super Cub...
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You have the right to differ to my opinions... when one of you friends ask me what is the Vmo of a 747, I answer "383 Kias" - if you wish to say "not right" is up to you... I provide you with the best answer by A.Net standards...
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Some people have asked me to be moderator - honest - I dont have the time to be one, and I only know some of the facets of aviation, maybe I will do it when I retire in 2008 (hopefully - Insh'Allah) but I am more than willing to help - particularly to those of you who want to have a career in aviation, or be a pilot. The A.Net is wonderful, let us keep it succesful -
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My dream is to have A.Net as a real source of valid and accurate information, which can be relied upon. As a captain I have to ask people around me to assist, maintenance, dispatch... it is a team work in aviation... A few of the postings in Tech/Ops really belong in Civil Aviation forum...
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Look at my "recommended" members - these are people you can trust upon to provide you with the best information, I selected them on "my list" because they offer you the best of information level available.
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Whether I am here, in the forum, or at my "pilot's bar" or at my "aero club-house" I talk airplanes... with the best of my abilities... feel welcome to join-in... I will answer to the best of my knowledge or opinions... for the price of a beer.
And I always have a  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
(s) Skipper

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User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3695 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3970 times:
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B747skipper,

You say

As a captain I have to ask people around me to assist, maintenance, dispatch...it is a team work in aviation... .

and

Look at my "recommended" members - these are people you can trust upon to provide you with the best information, I selected them on "my list" because they offer you the best of information level available.

I notice 80% (the other 20% we don't know) of your recommended members are pilots. Aren't any of those people who "assist" you to be trusted?




User currently offlineMD11Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

B747Skipper,
Only 5 people (no, 6 including you) in this forum to be trusted? Now you are insulting many of the people here. I believe the number to be trusted are in the hundreds.

Regards,
Nut


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Here's the list:

411A, ThirtyEcho, Jetguy, Rick767, CX flyboy


That's great, but I agree it is an insult to those who also provide quality information.


The best advice is to use your own judgment as to who is to be trusted. If something sounds fishy, or even if it doesn't, do a quick profile search and figure out where that person is coming from. Look at that user's previous posts just to be sure. Aviation is a life or death hobby, career, whatever. I'd think that the people who 'need' this information are intelligent enough to know not to ever take things at face value.

And B747skipper, I, like many, sincerely appreciate all the time you and other professional pilots put in to this forum. However, I don't see a problem with a little debating. Imaginative thinking can lead to new ideas, and, to use your example, things like picturing an airliner flying faster than the speed of sound over the ground yet going Mach .84 in the air may lead to greater understandings of the relationship between airspeed / groundspeed.


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

Whoops - did I started another controversy...
Was not meant to be that way... there are numerous aviation trades besides pilots - yes, mechanics, dispatchers, flight attendants that provide valuable information here... My "recommended list" is merely a part of the many, and by no means exclusive of many others, who provide valuable information...
It is about time I take a vacation - shall we say...
See you around in a while...
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineDragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

B747skipper, dont let the others bother you...you know you're right...the people who aren't stubborn know youre right. I'm not saying that you can't be wrong, but I have yet to see it, and you seem to be the kind of guy who admits it. Thanks for everything that you post here. They are very informative, and those with common sense are bound to belive someone who has been there done that than those of use who have only been there in flight simulator  Wink/being sarcastic. I think being a moderator would be a pain, especially in the non av forum. My hat goes off to those who put up with that crap. Just an idea Skip, maybe when you retire you could look into making your own webpage similar to www.smartcockpit.com, or www.jetcareers.com (both great sites that I would reccomend all of you to check out. Once again, thanks to those of you who add nothing but good info to this board. I hope to be in your shoes some day. Well...maybe not your shoes...but similar ones  Wink/being sarcastic

--dragogoalie-#88--



Formerly known as Jap. Srsly. AUSTRALIA: 2 days!
User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

Please don't leave again, Skipper!  Sad

User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7437 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3840 times:
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Now you are insulting many of the people here. I disagree 100%. Just b/c the user didn't have the room to fill his lists with respected members does not mean he is insulting any other user. WHY PUT WORDS in the gentleman's mouth?? Must he SPELL OUT EVERYTHING in his posts?


B747 Skipper, no need for you to apologize. You did not create a controversy here at all. You don't have to explain yourself. No one should have to explain thmselves or massage other users in order to validate their feelings.

You merely stated an opinion and had others jump on it for no reason. I will never understand why users feel the need to intimidate others. That will end soon I hope.

Just goes to show that you can't please everyone. Ignore them.



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User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

For heaven's sake - no, not leaving - but... need a vacation...
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My recommended list is merely pilots that I know have experience and a lot of maturity, I try to keep up with ALL trades, pilots is the only trade I know...
I have made 100s of friends here with whom I communicate frequently outside of the forum, with email - especially when the communication is outside the scope of the forum.
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I love kids who want to learn airplanes - many of you here, I have a son of 13 myself, a kid that has no idea how to drive a car - no interest in driving, but if you put him in the middle of our discussions, you would be amazed at the knowledge he has acquired about airplanes... I think I will make him a "First Class Member" for a 14th birthday gift - next August...
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Mirrodie is on my case - he his right - need to explain myself better at times, cannot communicate good with "earthlinks" - I teach frequently - lectures, in classrooms in a mix of Spanish and English - everyone is laughing but, all are getting the message...
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I get upset at stupid questions - "how come this aircraft has blue color cowls on number 3 engine..." is a question for civil aviation forum, not here in the ops/tech forum - my answer is "they ran out of the supply of yellow paint"... Sure, there are no dumb questions... but some, honestly do not belong here. I may fly a 747 in real life, yet I cannot fly a flight simulator like some of you have with your computer - for me such thing is not an airplane, it is a toy or hobby at best - just an opinion...
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When I put an answer to a subject here, it is with the best of my knowledge and experience - the areas I am not sure about, I say so then... My airline pays me lots of money for what I do, flying and teaching, you get it for free.
Oh well  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

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Marriott:
now you are insulting many of the people here. I disagree 100%. Just b/c the user didn't have the room to fill his lists with respected members does not mean he is insulting any other user. WHY PUT WORDS In the gentleman's mouth?? Must he SPELL OUT EVERYTHING in his posts?'
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While this quote was not directed at me, I feel compelled to reply, as my statement was similar to the one prompting this post. I was not implying that B747skipper deliberately set out to insult those people (he quite obviously was not); I was merely pointing out two things (that I should have elaborated on in my original post):
1) Yes, it could be taken as an insult.
2 - the more important of the two) B747skipper, being one of the main sources for reliable info on this board, is obviously looked up to by many (including myself....). However, when someone of this a.net 'prestige' points out users to be trusted, it can be inferred that others may not always be entirely correct. My point is that valuable information may be lost or overlooked because a certain user does not have this 'status'.

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Marriott:
'You merely stated an opinion and had others jump on it for no reason. I will never understand why users feel the need to intimidate others. That will end soon I hope.'
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Marriott, of course I can only speak for myself, but I'd bet MD11Nut shares my opinions on this matter (if he doesn't I'm sure he won't hesitate to make his own opinions known). It is my personal opinion that singling out users 'to be trusted' can effectively block out users that do not carry this 'status'. This is a problem with the entire 'respected users' premise, not just with the skipper's statement. I did not mean to, as you put it, 'intimidate' and 'jump on it for no reason'. To the contrary, I was pointing out the fact that people to be trusted on this board vary greatly - people come from different experience levels and different fields of work. Just as the GA pilot usually cannot accurately comment on a specific airline's operations, airline pilots may or may not be able to comment on a specific GA plane's specs. That is why it is important for all users to check the profiles of those who give out this kind of information. I hope this explains more clearly why I thought it could be insulting; if anyone needs more reasons please reread the last paragraph of my original post, which I have thoughtfully copied here:
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skyguy11:
And B747skipper, I, like many, sincerely appreciate all the time you and other professional pilots put in to this forum. However, I don't see a problem with a little debating. Imaginative thinking can lead to new ideas, and, to use your example, things like picturing an airliner flying faster than the speed of sound over the ground yet going Mach .84 in the air may lead to greater understandings of the relationship between airspeed / groundspeed.
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User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3811 times:

Mirrodie, I just noticed that the spell check changed your name to a hotel. Sorry 'bout that.....

User currently offlineMd11nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

How do you get people like Mirrodie to be Forum Moderator anyways? He doesn't even read the posts. That's it. I give up. I quit.

MD11Nut


User currently offlineIndian_flyboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Whoa !!!! What the hell just happened here ? Just cannot figure out what the argument is all about . I have the highest reagrd for Skipper and his posts and the users he has recommended, that definitely does not mean that users not on skippers list mean nothing . Whats this all about ? Skipper expressed his feelings and thats it . Get a life guys !!!.

Regards


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7437 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3675 times:
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He doesn't even read the posts.

How so? You gave an opinion. I read yours and expressed mine. Why should other users here be intimidated or felt that they are doing wrong especially when they are not?
I think this is the first time I have ever even addressed one of your posts. So we disagreed.
So an effective solution is leaving???

Indian guy, you said that definitely does not mean that users not on skippers list mean nothing. Whats this all about ? Skipper expressed his feelings and thats it. I think you hit the nail on the head in more articulate words than I could.

SkyGuy, thanks! For a minute, I was confused and had to check my own username to be sure!



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User currently offlineBio15 From Colombia, joined Mar 2001, 1089 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

B747skipper:

I am not sure if you are aware of the level of respect users give to you in this forum. But if you do, you should have probably not posted this on first instance. It's not you who fired up controversy (actually there's no real controversy), but those who take your posts too seriously. A similar thing happened with Jetguy's post last month where he apologized for having one of his posts removed.

A whole lot of people, including me, account you for providing good replies on the threads. Some other user firing up false statements or contradicting yours have low credibility unless they come up with well structured responses.

When discussing any particular topic, it is usual for us to see a consensus among the 'highly respected' users on the forum, and those are the ones that account for our learning. Also, a great mayority notices when a thread should be on the civil forum, and give it the low ratings.

Your opinion is respected just as mine and everyone else's, but sometimes the discussions get tangled in subjective posts by those supporting you, and those against. I just consider it unnecesary, with all due respect, to begin these non-tech/ops threads. The tech/ops forum seems to be working fine to me as long as we have respectable users feeding it with valuable information.

It is just intended as a friendly advice from another regular member of the bunch.  Smile

sincerely,
Alfredo


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

The expertise with aviation ranges through trades, the best system knowledge comes from the Aircraft Maintenance technicians, they actually know a great deal more about the 'aircraft' than the pilots do, We have too do a heck of a lot of theory of flight aswell !!!
But, it doesn't mean their more important than the pilots !!, as 747skipper mentioned earlier, its a team effort too keep the operation going, oh and btw 747 skipper, there is a two fold stage in assisting !!, its the A+P/ AMT's airplane until he signs it over too you !!,if he says its not flying, it don't fly, I think you may have stirred a few knifes when you mentioned assisting !! Of course it depends what you mean by assist, that I doubt we will ever really know now, but we all make it happen.
Everyone is equal I think is the key comment, take one from the operation and you break it, teamwork !!
747skipper, this was not an attempt too get at you or doubt anything as im sure you are very able and obviously experienced, but I like the good moral's and correct use of terms, undermining is dangerous.
regards,
a/c


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3614 times:

Skyguy, Bio15 and Friends -
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I agree with you about the many things you criticize about the way I am at times... I know if you would know me in person, in classrooms, or operations, or flying, you would have maybe a better opinion of me...
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The one thing I do always, is to put an effort to answer to many questions in the most simple manner, and I pay a lot of attention to show how simple the things can be made to be understood... If I answer things in a simple manner, at times, someone comes behind, to complicate my answers... I am dealing often with young men who are learning the basics, and I try to make it very easy for them to understand...
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I have met many pilots (and instructors) in my life, many of which were not only unable to instruct, by making things complicated - but on top of that they insisted on sanctifying theirselves of being "so superior" to others, one thing I want everyone to realize, is, that to be a pilot, it is not necessary to be Einstein or the son of god Jupiter...
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And I dont consider myself to be that type of person...
Flying is rather simple thing, the theory of flight, and airplanes, and their operation, I dont see why make it so complicated, especially to the young men who try to make aviation a career, as pilot, mechanic, or other positions.
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The true airspeed of a given Mach number varies with temperature only, as an example... Nothing to do with altitude... my slide rule and my cruise tables say so... I conveyed that information in the forum, and I maintain that fact. That is the fact accepted by all airline pilots, and military pilots as well...
xxx
Let's keep things simple...  Wink/being sarcastic
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

See ya MD11Nut....

too short too short too short


User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

The "respected user" system employed in this forum is NOT a good measure of a person's ability, knowledge or experience.

I have found that online forums are primarily a popularity contest. Whoever comes up with a contrary view or correction is instantly labeled as an interloping sh*t disturber. Pilots are given an incredibly unrealistic amount of credence on this forum. Pilots are NOT mechanics, designers, engineers, certification experts etc...So when such people offer corrections to a pilot's view on these subjects, why are they instantly discounted? Let's dispell the myth that pilots ARE "aviation".

Just because someone says they have a million hours operating a 747 doesn't mean they all of a sudden are qualified to discuss aerodynamics, hydraulics, avionics etc. at a level beyond the layman's level of perspective pilots are often trained to.

When a pilot and aeronautical engineer squabble about supersonic aerodynamic properties of airframes, believe me, the engineer is the authority. Pilots will try to convince you that if *THEY* don't learn it that way it doesn't matter. How dare they?

When the general public realizes that aviation does not start and end at the pilot, I think you will see a shift in the "respected user" category...but don't hold your breath!





User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Airplay,

"Pilots will try to convince you that if *THEY* don't learn it that way it doesn't matter. How dare they?"

I hope in my contributions to the forum I have never expressed my view as one in which I regard my knowledge, experience or opinion as being all that is involved in or relevant to civil aviation?

There are many, many users in the forum who are not pilots, but know the in's and out's of the very aircraft I fly far better than me. It is not for any of you to question who B747skipper chooses to be on his respected users list, his reasons for their inclusion could be different to what you perceive.

I would like to think I add anyone to that list who I can trust the responses of as a sensible, perhaps very knowledgeable, individual. Take a look at my list, we pilots are not ganging together to defeat you all!

I do agree with your opinion that no-one should be discounted of their opinion simply because they disagree with a pilot! That is utter nonsense. A community in which only one view is represented is a very sad one... the A.Net Tech/Ops Forum is not one such community (I hope?).



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

Friends -
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Do not believe that pilots are always of the same opinion. Sure, we generally are civilized with each other, but far from agreeing on everything...
xxx
In the old days - you could not put TWA 707 pilots with PanAm 707 pilots in the same bar, at the hotel on layover, everything was different about our airplanes and procedures, and not only that, we were fierce competitors on the Atlantic routes...
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A TWA 707 was completely different than a PanAm cockpit, their switches on the "overhead panel" moved in the opposite direction than "our switches"... Their flight instruments were different as well, their procedures were different, even the names of check lists... we had "descent check list" they had a "landing preliminary check list", we had "landing check list", they had "final landing check list"... We joked about each other - yes... and we respected each other despite constant disagreements.
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Pilots are not above everything - we are team players, with maintenance and ground engineers, we are mad when a autopilot "B" fails, report it... next leg it works fine, but now autopilot "C" is failed... they traded the two... we claim they dont make any effort to fix it... in reality, they probably traded it to troubleshoot the problem... different point of view...
And ground engineers complain that pilots cannot properly report problems, they sometimes write "does not work" - no explanation... how can we help maintenance to fix the failed item...
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As to my "respected list" - I said it is not inclusive, maybe I should put more names, because I respect in fact many, if not the majority of people who are in tech/ops forum, and I will attempt to correct the situation there. I have initially listed people that are pilots, and yes, there are mechanics, non-pilots, and young future pilots that fully deserve to be on the list... we are limited to 20 "respected" members... I wish we could have a higher limit...
And it is not because you have an ATPL... for me there are private pilots who should be there too...
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Agree - I have mentioned sometimes that some questions "why such color" in a cockpit annoy me (as I do not really care), yet the gentleman who posts such question has probably a valid reason to ask... even mere curiosity... For me, there are questions I often ask other pilots I meet at airports or hotels, but they are mostly technical... I realize maybe to some of you, a seating configuration of an airplane is an important question... I could not tell you how many seats in Cabin C, D or E... yet your question is justified as you probably travel a lot, and wish to compare to other airlines...
xxx
Happy contrails  Wink/being sarcastic
(s) Skipper

P.S. MD11nut - please come back...


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7437 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3493 times:
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I am dealing often with young men Also, don't forget, young women too.

I also agree with the thoughts about the respected list. I respect a vast amount more users than my list shows. However, the last time I added to it, I was not a moderator.

Basically, I give respect where it is due, whether you are a mechanic, pilot, or the dude that made my coffee on the 11 AM out of MIA. (thanks, I needed that)

I can think of a few of you that I respect and can rattle off a few names here. But I don't want to offend you if I lapse into momentary short term memory loss and don't mention your name.




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User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

Watch out for that Mirrodie character, he's a clever one.....

User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

As of 22 NOV I am on vacations - going for a cruise on the Amazon, from Iquitos (Peru) to Belem (Brazil) with my wife Marcela... planning 4 weeks of swimming with the pinranhas and the jacares (little hungry fishes and crocodiles) and take care of my head (shrinked) by some Jivaros tribes we will visit... so maybe the Jivaros will quiet me down somewhat... I guess in Jivaro tribes, the head shrinkers are the "moderators"...  Big grin
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The only point of civilization will be the city of Manaus, so dont expect me to be bugging you gentlemen for a few weeks, but I may try to send a posting in a bottle down the Rio Tapajos...
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We are supposed to rent a C-185 floatplane to go from Manaus for a side trip, I will try to ask the pilot to let me land that thing on water, never flown in a floatplane in my life... I hope to get some dual training on the way up and down, a week later... And I told Marcela that Jivaros dont have Gucci stores.
xxx
Bought myself a little Garmin GPS, just in case I am lost, so I can send you guys my coordinates if may (vaguely) consider a rescue mission...
xxx
Flying to Lima with Lloyd (with a 48 hrs stop in Santa Cruz, Bolivia) and from Lima to Iquitos with a Peruvian carrier Aero Continente (737) to see how these guys fly...
xxx
Will be back a few days before Xmas, if I can find my way after a few caipirinhas (Brazil drinks)... (hips)...
xxx
Happy contrails - all of you...
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

MD11nut have deleted himself.
Can only say that it becomes rather boring to read about that users will delte themselfs or whatever.
And this forum, ones again, is for tech/ops related issues.
Almost get a good laugh from reading this. Started rather innocent and became a sandbocks fight.



When in doubt, flat out!
25 Mr.BA : I've got nothing much to say really, but enjoy your vacation Skipper!
26 Essentialpowr : In just about every post I have ever contributed, I have emphasized the need for math, calc and physics bases responses (ie, "it's in the math) and ot
27 Essentialpowr : The post was by Ikarus, "Dimples on Golf Balls" chearz
28 Post contains images B747skipper : Essentialpowr - xxx Maybe flying a floatplane C-185 is nothing to you, it is a first time experience to me, and like many here talk about their activi
29 AdrianPing : B747skipper, It's most enjoyable to read about your travel plans. Please carry on letting us have that sort of stuff, I enjoy reading it. I do not und
30 Dinker225 : B747Skipper, I just wanted to thank you for the expansive amount of information you share with us here at airliners.net. You as well as the other pilo
31 Post contains images Bio15 : Best of luck on your trip B747skipper, don't ditch the waterplane. I hope, if you have the chance, that you visit Colombia. You would be very welcome,
32 Cx flyboy : I hope you have a good trip there Skipper. Just ignore those other posts. You know yourself that many in the aviation industry (Or those who cannot ge
33 Airplay : Just ignore it and continue just the way you have done. Yes Skipper. Ignore the rest of the industry and continue to feed the myth that pilots are the
34 Post contains images AF002 : As a matter of fact, most of us being kids dreamed of being pilots, not mechs.. I'm certain both excels in their field of expertise, and even if pilot
35 Post contains images B747skipper : Thanks a lot to all of you - all packed up and closing... Yes, vacation maybe not a subject for this forum, the floatplane is... When coming back - it
36 LMP737 : Dragogoalie: In order for you to know if Skipper is right or wrong on a subject that would mean you have a similar experience level. Looking at your p
37 Skyguy11 : LMP737, you don't need to be the most experienced guy on the block to be right once in a while.
38 Cdfmxtech : You know, there WAS a time when this forum was able to avoid all of this BS. I wonder what happened!!
39 Mirrodie : I never realized how much pilots are despised by non-pilots! It is not exactly sibling rivalry but reminds me of it. I think I HAD more respect here f
40 Bravo45 : Have a great one Skipper.
41 Post contains images Sudden : Can't we spare some space on this thread for a Boeing vs. Airbus fight as well. Or why not U.S carriers vs european carriers. That seemes to be the le
42 Airplay : I never realized how much pilots are despised by non-pilots! This is simply not the case. The point I am trying to make is that pilots are not TOTAL a
43 A/c train : agreed Cdfmxtech. the BS flows. AMT's have tried for years too earn the recognition they deserve, but the Association of licenced Aircraft engineers,
44 Cx flyboy : I bow my head to the engineers, as they know a hell of a lot more than I do!! They certainly do deserve a lot more recognition that they get.
45 Post contains images Fritzi : Have fun with the 185, Skipper. Its a really nice airplane. So far, this C185 Floatplane it the only one that I have flying hours in.
46 Rai : Airplay: I believe we have finally found a point of consensus! I actually agree with everything you say! There's hope yeT!
47 Coronado : Skipper, Desfrute tus vacaciones! and in Portuguese--Espero que voce tenha umas ferias inesqueciveis! I look forward to your rejoining Aviation.net in
48 Chief : Pilots, pilots, pilots, that's all I hear except a few admissions about the other trades in aviation. I definitely don't care about egos, hell I have
49 Sudden : Chief, if you check the history of the tech forum, you will find a lot of diagreement argues in the past about pilots vs mech's. This is a ongoing "fi
50 Post contains images Admiral ackbar : Screw all this bickering, Can you hook me up with Shakira! Have a great vacation
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