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Only 4600ft Of LGA Runway 4 In Use Tonight  
User currently offlineAA 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 814 posts, RR: 11
Posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3527 times:
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While listening to LGA Atis tonight they said that runway 4 approach was in use. After that they said that only 4600ft was operational tonight. I was thinking....could the 757's or 767's land? Would they be diverted to either JFK or EWR?

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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

I'm sure B757/767s can land with 4,600 feet length with no significant problems. Well expect to brake harder!  Smile

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User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

Is it one of those "Land and Hold Short Operation"?

User currently offlineShaun3000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

No, that wouldn't be on ATIS. Maybe mention of LAHSO going on, but they wouldn't limit the available length of a runway just for LAHSO. There was probably construction or something going on.

Land and Hold Short Ops (LAHSO) is optional. ATC can clear you to LAHS before some runway, but the PIC can reject this. This would result in either one plane going around if both are landing, or either holding the plane waiting to take-off on teh crossing runway or sending the landing plane around. Pilots are not required to accept LAHS clearances. It doesn't matter if there's not enough runway, the pilot isn't confident he will be able to touch down in time to stop before the LAHS point, or he just doesn't feel like it. Pilots do not have to accept it.

User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

No mention in the NOTAMs.

At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

A 762/ER would have to be about 20000lb (~30000lb ER) below max landing weight to land there, some headwind will probably make that less.

763 25000lb, ER 45000lb.


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