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User currently offlineLdaops From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6305 times:

Somebody of you know where the CPDLC are already used ?

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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6276 times:

I is being used in quite a few areas around the world now. We log on 30mins prior to flight within Singapore airspace, and we use it across the Pacific and in oceanic Japanese airspace. The last time I flew the 744, we were trialling it in Australia, Hong Kong, and Mongolia. I think Australia continues to use it. Hong Kong has finished trials and no idea about Mongolia.

User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6279 times:

Here is where we use it with and without ADS.

Singapore CPDLC but no ADS
Australia CPDLC and ADS
Shanwick and Gander Trans-Atlantic ADS but no CPDLC.
New Zealand CPDLC and ADS
Japan Oceanic CPDLC and ADS
Oakland Oceanic ADS and CPDLC on trial
Anchorage ADS and no CPDLC if I remember
Trans-Pacific FIR after Auckland has CPDLC and ADS, might be Fiji.





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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2395 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6270 times:

In addition:
Maastricht CPDLC
Yangon CPDLC testing
Kolkatta CPDLC testing


User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

Hi AJ

I remember all States agreed to upgrade to CPDLC to allow its use across the Bay of Bengal but didn't Yangon then pull out instead opting to use the funds to upgrade its VHF and HF comms?

Kolkatta CPDLC has....supposedly....been on trial the last 16-18 months and has encouraged all aircraft to log on. To date I've not been able to nor has anyone else from this Airline. No-one is surprised.



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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2395 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

I've sucessfully logged on to Kolkatta, however I then had them on CPDLC, HF and VHF, all giving different commands! Time to log off about then! As for Yangon I understood that it was Australian aid money paying for the datalink.

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4653 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6241 times:

Continental is starting to use it on the 767 Transatlantic and is already doing so on the 777.


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User currently offlineBio15 From Colombia, joined Mar 2001, 1089 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6214 times:

I'm sorry, but what is the CPDLC?

User currently offlineJetCaptain From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 236 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6213 times:

Miami has also started trials ......

http://ffp1.faa.gov/tools/tools_cpdlc.asp

JC


User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6204 times:

Bio15

CPDLC stands for controller pilot datalink communications. ADS is automatic dependant surveillance.




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User currently offlineLeftWing From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

any one has pics of the system being used in the flt deck...

User currently offlinePoint8six From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

CPDLC is used via the ATC selector button on the FMC-CDU (B744).
Yangon has used CPDLC for some time, but successful connection is variable!


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5431 times:



Quoting Ejazz (Reply 4):
Kolkatta CPDLC has....supposedly....been on trial the last 16-18 months and has encouraged all aircraft to log on. To date I've not been able to nor has anyone else from this Airline. No-one is surprised.

Have had no problems using Kolkotta CPDLC. In addition Chennai is CPDLC able and normally works great. Yangoon is more sporadic with the log on usually successful but they have a tendency not to answer, just like on HF.

In addition, all of MEL center is CPDLC able and they use it to a great extent once you get into their airspace coming from SIN.


User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5416 times:



Quoting Ejazz (Reply 2):
Shanwick and Gander Trans-Atlantic ADS but no CPDLC.

Shanwick does have CPDLC it's just Gander that's only ADS even though they supposedly have CPDLC it's not in use at the moment.

Also going from BOM - DXB you can use CPDLC/ADS with BOM ATC across the Gulf of Oman.


User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3790 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5364 times:

Lanzhou (ZLLL) and Urumqi (ZWWW) in China also have CPDLC.

It is used on the Y1 airways that goes over the high ground with no VHF coverage.
So far, only a few airlines use that route as far as I know, due to the high terrain and enroute alternate restrictions.



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5329 times:



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 14):
It is used on the Y1 airways that goes over the high ground with no VHF coverage.
So far, only a few airlines use that route as far as I know, due to the high terrain and enroute alternate restrictions.

We use it as well as L-888 over China. There are specific "escape routes" to the alts that are updated at each waypoint for emergencies.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5326 times:
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Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 15):
L-888 over China

We don't have CPDLC installed so we don't use that airway Big grin

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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5315 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):
We don't have CPDLC installed so we don't use that airway

Too bad depending on what your dest. is. We shave off about 45 min. CDG-SFS. Plus you don't have to talk to anyone!! yes.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5313 times:
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Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 17):
Too bad depending on what your dest. is. We shave off about 45 min. CDG-SFS. Plus you don't have to talk to anyone!! yes.

Yep, I know. There are plans to install it because sooner or later it will be mandatory in the NAT airspace. But I don't know when.
but the system seems to be cool, been jumpseating on a A346 and I liked that system  thumbsup 

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User currently offline113312 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 573 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5297 times:

Works really nice between the West Coast and Hawaii too. You log on, make one electronic position report and verify SELCAL on HF and that's about it for nearly four hours flying. You can get altitude changes and a handoff to the next controlling agency through the datalink.

Although it's a different program and means of communication, it looks very much like ACARS on the screens.


User currently offlineSilverComet From Mauritius, joined Apr 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5245 times:

We use it in Antananarivo (FMMM) airspace and Mauritius (FIMM) airspace. Definitely much nicer than HF comms.

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