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747's Into Airports With Short Runways  
User currently offlineTu144d From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 198 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6449 times:

Are there any SCHEDULED Boeing 747 flights into airports whose longest runway is LESS than 7,000ft?

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User currently offlineYbacpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6300 times:

St. Marten (SXM)? I'm not sure of the length, but I've heard its mighty short, and there are a number of widebody, including 747, flights scheduled.


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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6772 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6284 times:

Far as I know there never has been such a schedule.

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6272 times:

I believe SXM is 7000 ft. long give or take a few hundred feet...when 747's operated out of there, they usually headed to another island with a longer runway to top off tanks before heading across the pond...

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User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6192 times:

Hobart International airport has a runway which is only 2200 metres long which is about 7,000ft and get's quite a lot of heavy traffic including AN-124's,747's,A340's and 767's. Another one i can think of is Coolangatta airport in QLD which has a runway only 2042 metres long but routinely has 767 traffic.

User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6057 times:

Friends -
SXM has a 7535 feet runway...
As USAFHummer mentioned, the 747s operate out of SXM to other Carribean airports (to drop some other passengers as well) then refuel for the flight back to Europe... Unless say, a 9,000 feet runway is available (better, make it 10,000 feet) - there is nothing much that can be done for a heavily loaded 747 to fly full payload with a lot of fuel...
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User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6031 times:

In the past Braniff used to fly their pumpkin 747s from Love Field and it has runways in the 7 thousand foot range.

User currently offlineCx340 From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 609 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5883 times:

Isn't the AF fight into SXM non-stop now, with A340s? At least it used to be not too long ago. . .

User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1378 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5874 times:

To add to BA skipper neither can a loaded down: L1011-100,DC-10,MD-11,A340 or even 727-200 operate from anything under 9,000-10,000 feet safely.


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Yes, the SXM-CDG flights are nonstop both ways.

That's got to be scary as all hell... watching an A343 attempt to get off of a runway barely longer than 7000ft!! Wow! Talk about payload penalty  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5831 times:

Wellington International (NZWN) has a 1935 Metre (6348 Feet) runway aligned 16/34 with high ground to the north and no safety areas at either end.

We used to see regular QF 747SP service as well as NZ and QF 767 service.
Unusual heavies have included a UA 747-100 diverted from Auckland and a BA 777 Royal Flight though that one was obviously VERY lightly loaded.
All heavies had payload restrictions.

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User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 5639 times:

In the past Braniff used to fly their pumpkin 747s from Love Field and it has runways in the 7 thousand foot range.

13R/31L at Love has an 8800 foot runway....



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5532 times:

What about BA 747's into SAN?

Not sure how long the runway is, but i assume it's short.



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User currently offlineFrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

A fully loaded 727-200 also needs 9,000-10,000 feet of runway for a safe takeoff?

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

I think the 744 into SAN went to PHX first, but now its changed to a 777 direct.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8045 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

I think Braniff had moved to DFW before they got their 747s; so I don't think they ever operated out of Love Field.

Anyone remember when a United DC10 landed at Washington National? Low on fuel, although I don't know why they didn't divert somewhere else, DC ain't exactly Easter Island. Anyway, a UA DC10 definitely went into National, flew out again the next day empty by a UA test pilot. I've never seen a picture but I would very much like to if anyone knows anything about it.



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2420 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5040 times:

I just received my May/June Airliners magazine yesterday. It features an article on SAN.
Their runway is 9,400 ft long with a 1,810 foot displaced threshold. The British 744 stopped in PHX. On March 25, 2001 British 772 non-stops went to Gatwick. In October 2002 it switched to Heathrow.



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2420 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5054 times:

Braniff definitely flew their 747 out of Love Field to HNL. It was flight 501 using N601BN.
Here is a photo of Braniff's 747 at Love Field: http://braniffpages.com/1965/1965.html



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

747s sometimes land on runway 11/29 (crosswind) at EWR, Newark's 11/29 is about 6,600 ft long.


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