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Concorde Flying Time From JFK To LHR  
User currently offlineTu144d From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 198 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12288 times:

I was just browsing BA timetables and noticed that the total time for BA002 is now 4 hours. I remember it being around 3hrs 45 mins. I know this is nitpicking but is there any reason for the increase in total time? Is it due to new routing or taxying delays?

-Vikram-

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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12216 times:

I read on a website that it was 3hrs and 21 mins. I wonder if BA are just giving an approximate time when they say '4 hours'?

DC-10


User currently offlineBellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 583 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Tu144d

For the summer schedules, the departure time of the BA 2 has been brought forward, and it will depart JFK at 09:00 EDT.

Obviously the arrival time at LHR has also come forward, and the aircraft will arrive at a busier time at LHR, with an increased chance of ATC delays.

The five minute increase in the flight schedule, to 4h:00m, reflects this, and the new arrival time LHR is 18:00 BST.

The typical flying time of around 3h:15m, before any ATC delays, may well decrease a couple of minutes, as the Summer Deceleration Point is much closer to the UK coast than the Winter Deceleration Point, so Concorde can stay at Mach 2.0 a bit longer.

Regards

Bellerophon


User currently offlineTu144d From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 198 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12140 times:

Thanks for your reply "Bellerophon". BTW, Why does the decerlation point change from Summer to Winter?

-Vik-


User currently offlineBellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 583 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12015 times:

Tu144d

In the colder temperatures of winter, the secondary, or reflected booms, from Concorde occasionally seem to bounce further from the aircraft than we would expect, or sonic theory dictate.

As a result of complaints from those affected, mainly people living in the South West of England, we moved the point by which Concorde had to be below Mach 1.0 further out into the Atlantic, which has cured the problem.

This phenomenon of secondary boom reflection doesn't happen in Summer temperatures, so we revert to the normal deceleration point.

Regards

Bellerophon


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13166 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12001 times:

On a late shift about 4 years ago, BA switchboard screwed up and some irate woman in SW England was put through to our hangar, I took the call.
She claimed that Concorde had gone supersonic over her house, I assured her that would not happen, could it have been a RAF aircraft?
But her timings matched the BA004, she sounded the type who would make I fuss and take it further, so I could not say what I wanted to say, when she moaned about the noise, that is, "yeah, great isn't it!"


User currently offlineGt1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11833 times:

when I flew on Concorde (ID90), our planned flying time was 3 hours and 14 minutes. Of course, when we got to LHR, we had to wait for our gate to open up.

Regardless, Concorde is the MOST AWESOME aircraft in the sky, bar none. Great Britain and France can be proud of the fact that they cooperated to produce this incredible machine.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8052 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11602 times:

The record for a Concorde flight on the westbound route (LHR-JFK) is 2 hours 59 mins. How unbelievable is that? In Canadian airspace after about 1:50.

I am going to buy a ticket before October. Definitely.



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User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11576 times:

On that note, Cedarjet, did anyone see the billboard that BA had up in New York (maybe on time square?) a few years ago .. it was just a picture of a Concorde touchdown from behind, complete with all the exhaust haze, and the only text was "Concorde world record Atlantic crossing 2:58:59" or something like that.

I thought it was awesome  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineBellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 583 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11534 times:

Ben

Glad you liked the billboard!

2:52:59 was the time.

Regards

Bellerophon


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11490 times:
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speaking of the billboard, wasn't there also te model of a Concorde on top of a building in times square? Is it still there?

Bellerophon, would you please contact me privately?




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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11431 times:
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also, on the displays in the pax cabin, ther eis speed in Mach as well as MPH and also temp outside.

but there is also DTG and I thought I saw something else(perhaps another D#$% acronym?). Was the distance to go??



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User currently offlineTadex From Vatican City, joined Sep 2002, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11373 times:

Bellerophon: Great explanation. Thanks!
rgds


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User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11360 times:

With the recent Concorde news, what chance does a 13-year-old stand of getting on Concorde before she goes...none  Sad

BA777


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11346 times:

BA777, ask your parents to put you in the line for a 1095£ sightseeing trip
you find the link on www.concordesst.com Myself I tried to book one of these
but they´re all sold out (but you can be put on a waiting list, just in case).


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