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747 Classic Autopilot/Autothrottle  
User currently offlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2236 posts, RR: 20
Posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5285 times:

Hi All,

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In the photo above of a Lufthansa 742 Freighter the autothrottle knob on the glareshield is set at the off position, but the annunciator above the airspeed indicator is showing MACH mode, and there doesn't seem to be a MACH mode on the knob anyway - how is the MACH mode set and autothrottle Mach number changed?

Also there is a v/s mode on the knob - does this control vertical speed regardless of airspeed or will it vary pitch attitude to maintain the airspeed set in the IAS window during climbs and descents at current engine power setting?

As always any and all help appreciated.


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User currently offline744lover From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5232 times:

Hi Gordon,

The switch you are reffering is not the A/T one. It handles the "vertical navigation" from the aircraft. If you switch it to V/S, your climb or descend will be controlled with the V/S wheel on the MCP. In IAS the AP will hold the selected airspeed with VS.

The master ON/OFF Autothrottle switch is on the left side of the MCP. http://planeta.terra.com.br/relacionamento/dule/mcp1.jpg  Big grin


User currently offlineAccidentally From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

I beleive mach hold just holds whatever mach you're presently at when it's engaged.

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User currently offlineB747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

Hello Gordon and friends -
That switch on the "P-10" panel (glareshield panel with all A/P controls) is called the SPS Speed Mode Switch - has the following positions -
TURB - Used for turbulence penetration with A/P in MAN only, provides for A/P commands with reduced gain (i.e. not "chasing" altitude set)...
OFF - self explanatory
V/S - Used in conjunction with vertical speed control (a vertical white rotary knob) permitting to set vertical speed from 4,000 fpm climb to 8,000 fpm descent...
PMS (option) - If aircraft has PMS (older form of FMS), the pitch axis will control the aircraft as per levels and speeds programmed in PMS... In cruise, this position permitted the aircraft (on ALT HOLD) to vary slightly on altitude, some +200 to -200 feet... to keep speed/Mach... this is NOT USED in RVSM airspace, because outside of altitude tolerances...
IAS - Controls pitch axis referenced to CAS existing at engagement... generally used by pilots for cruise climb and descent...
MACH - Controls pitch axis referenced to indicated Mach at engagement... could be used for climb/descent at higher levels, generally above FL280 or so, but rarely used by pilots, since that pitch axis control seems to "chase" the set Mach number in all airplanes I personally flew...
Happy contrails -  Smile
(s) Skipper

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